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the burden of proof is upon the believer to actually believe…   Leave a comment

when it comes to the existence of god, the burden of proof shouldn’t be one of establishing whether that supernatural entity exists or not, because honestly, that will never be proven or disproven so it is an endless pointless argument…

For my mind, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, so you need to have god-like evidence in order to prove that a god is just that, ie. a *god*. Meaning to say that should such a creature exist in any capacity whatsoever, then according to the popular definitions of god being all powerful, everywhere and nowhere at once, knows everything, lives forever, infinitely clever etc etc, then god is such an infinitely complex being that even if you did have actual evidence you wouldn’t know what it represented, because to claim any knowledge of what this infinitely complex being called “god” is or what it is about or what it wants, is to insult that god… well, it would be, if your existence wasn’t so insignificant to it, that is.

I imagine god and our perception of such a thing as being like this: imagine a one dimensional universe; in a one dimensional universe there is only that one single point in that universe: there is no up and down, no left or right, there is no such thing as length, height and width. That single point could only be aware of its own existence, it is beyond the definition of a single dimension universe for there to be anything other than that single point. However, from our human point of view above the lower two dimensions in our three dimensional universe, we know that single points in space can be joined to make two dimensional representations, and we also know what two dimensional objects can be joined to make three dimensional objects.

In a single dimension universe, that single point of view could only ever hope that there was a dimension above it, it could never have proof of such a thing, because if it did have proof of there being a dimension beyond its own, it would require another single point in its universe to be a part of its single point universe in order to prove that there was something, *anything*, beyond its existence, but to do so, it would need to “transform” its single dimension universe, into at least a two dimensional universe.

So the only way that single point in its single dimension universe would be able to have “proof” of a higher dimension and remain in its current dimension, is if it made it all up, it could only be pretending that there was something more to its existence, regardless of whether it actually turned out to be completely right in its assertions!

So in regards to god, if you could prove that god exists, for me that would mean that doing so would defy the very definition of god because how could an infinitely complex being even be perceived by mortally bound humans from our lower point of view?? We can’t perceive god because we are like that single point in space, we only know of our single point in space, we can’t conceive of anything beyond that single point, because there is simply nothing in our perception that could represent anything outside our single point universe except for our *imagination*.

The reality of this point of view, is that the true blasphemy to god, is that humans had the audacity to dream up the concept of god in the first place. For my mind, the only reason humans invented god was because of human arrogance in their attempts to become more like god themselves, and to be like god, even in the smallest of degrees, is idolatry, at least according to the bible’s first commandment.

“Love thy god before all others” especially applies to those who are pretending to be god themselves, because if you claim to be a follower of Jesus, but then you don’t follow what he allegedly taught, then you are making up your own Jesus. You have your own personal Jesus in your brain; you are probably mistaking this Jesus of yours for your ego.

Soooo… seeing how this god creature can never be proven or disproven by us mere mortals without practically becoming gods ourselves, the burden of proof should shift to be one of the believer demonstrating that this fantastically enlightened being called “god” actually exists by the believer actually following what it taught.

Seriously, Jesus says in the bible, in three gospels, that if you want to go to heaven then sell all your stuff and give the money you make to the needy.

If christians want me to believe that this god of theirs exists and if they truly expect that they are going to get into heaven, then they can damn well show that they are serious about their religion by actually taking what their messiah taught seriously because it is more than apparent to me that the biggest hurdle for any christian, is to actually do what their messiah told them…

I mean, look at all the people telling others to follow Jesus when they aren’t even following what he taught, people who do that, are merely saying that they are following Jesus, they aren’t actually *doing* what he taught and if they aren’t doing what the biblical Jesus said, then that right there is a person who is pretending to be Jesus/god and in actual fact, seeing how this Jesus of theirs is actually their own ego, they are actually asking that you should follow *them* and believe in everything that *they* believe in. (and christians have the gall to say that atheists are pretending to be god?)

The object of getting everyone to merely say that they just believe, is that if *everyone* is merely just following Jesus by merely just saying that they are, then there will no reason for those pretend-to-be christians to feel guilt for not actually following their messiah’s teachings. something like: “Hey, if no-one else is doing what Jesus commanded, why should I bother as well? and seeing how everyone is still saying they follow Jesus, I will too, just so I can seem to fit in and be part of the group so as to not be excluded and not be taunted for not believing…” …

I look at atheists and christians, and the only difference between the two of them is that the atheist isn’t pretending to be something that they are not. The atheist is boldly declaring that they aren’t following Jesus, unlike the christian, who doesn’t have the perspicacity to realise or the balls to own up to the fact that they aren’t actually following what JC allegedly taught either.

Essentially, any christian objection to atheism is one of “how dare you not pretend to follow Jesus like I am!” .. the christian is jealous of the atheist ability to not be a bullshit artist and that the atheist has the ability to do good deeds because it is the right thing to do. Doing good deeds, regardless of your beliefs, was in fact the point of the Good Samaritan. If you do good deeds without claiming that you are christian, then you are already one up in JC’s good books, if you say you a christian, but then do nothing to prove that claim by doing good deeds, you are most certainly not in JC’s good books.

Don’t believe me? read the gospels of Mark, Luke and Matthew, any claims to the contrary that are supposedly from the bible, are very much likely to be things that Jesus didn’t say, and if Jesus didn’t say them, then what the fuck are you calling yourself christian for if you aren’t listening to your precious messiah? Are you a “Saint” Paulian? or an Old Testamentarian? or do you follow what *J*e*s*u*s* taught?

the outspoken and annoying christian feels a need to spread their empty faith because they are not following what the central figure of their religion even teaches, they feel the need for other people to have provide the burden of proof because they are not comfortable with their just believing in Jesus, it isn’t enough for them, they need to have others “just believe in Jesus” as well, so the mere existence of outspoken atheists is an affront to their empty declarations of their “just believe in Jesus” faith because the atheist represents the truth to them and the truth of christianity, especially in “western” nations, is that christians are not following their messiah either… Putting the burden of proof onto others is the christian saying “well, you aren’t helping the needy either!!” to which the non-believer position should be.. “while that may be true, unlike you, I don’t follow a supernatural being that commanded that if I want to get into heaven, then I will help the needy, to my own detriment, if need be”

Open declarations of atheism are announcements that are akin to saying “why should I follow what you are only *pretending* to be following, why the fuck should I pretend to follow your religion as well?? there is no way I am following your religion just to make you feel better about you *not* following what your precious messiah taught”

The christian burden of proof is shoved into the faces of christians by atheists by the atheist brazenly walking around declaring that they can be actual people without pretending to be a follower of Jesus. The atheist does not need to pretend to believe in something that they don’t even follow, this is an insult to the Christ-ego of the pretend-to-be-a-believers. How can the atheist NOT pretend to be a christian? how can they NOT go around merely declaring that they are good people? It doesn’t take much to pretend that you are a good person, so HOW can the atheist not pretend to be better than everyone else, it is blasphemy!

If everyone in a particular society walked around pretending to be followers of Christ, then there would be no guilt associated with not actually following what this Christ guy was trying to teach those who would allege to be one of his followers.

seriously, show me a christian person that can truly claim that they have given most of their money to the needy; could claim that they aren’t hateful; that they aren’t judgemental; that they are meek and don’t brag that they are a believer; that they would sooner die or let their family die than bring hurt upon someone else; that they help out people regardless of beliefs and creeds….

these are the things Jesus taught that you must do in order to follow him and get into heaven, the burden of proof is completely upon the believer to actually get in there and show everyone that they are doing as Jesus commanded… and even then, it is against the teachings of Jesus to be showing off that you are actually following his teachings by doing good deeds in front of others for the purpose of showing off that you are doing good deeds!!! Anything else that conflicts with the stuff i listed above that is supposedly from the bible, was more than likely not said by their precious Jesus in the first place..

remember, half the New Testament is supposedly written by some self appointed apostle that, at least up until the moment in the story where Jesus was crucified, was rounding up Jesus’ followers and executing them! “Saint” Paul was trying to eliminate Jesus… think about that…. nearly everything I have had a problem with from the New Testament is a “Saint” Paulism.

Proof to the non-believer that there is no such a thing as Jesus, should be the fact that the two billion people supposedly claiming to follow Jesus, haven’t spread their wealth out across the planet and made sure that every needy person on earth was no longer in need, you know, as their Lord and Saviour *commanded*… Commandments are generally not considered to be an optional thing that you can do, or even get away with doing a mere few times, giving to the needy would seem to be a compulsory precursor for heavenly entry to the christian.

I *facepalm* at the USA richest-nation-in-the-world christians and their claims that the USA is a christian nation; the USA has twice as many people in poverty as Australia has people, how is that possible in an alleged “christian” nation?

The burden of proof, at least for christians to prove that their is a Jesus and therefore a *god*, is to eliminate poverty world wide.

Until then, all of christianity is to be called into question as to what the fuck have that lot been doing for the last two millennia?


Posted 6 October, 2012 by manabrau in Uncategorized

Friedrich Nietzsche quotes   1 comment

was bored tonight so i read some web site that has some Nietzsche quotes and there are some things that he has said that are in common usage today… not saying he said them first but … anyway my fave Friedrich Nietzsche quotes from that site (link at the bottom)

Friedrich Nietzsche quotes

And we should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once. And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh.

Anyone who has declared someone else to be an idiot, a bad apple, is annoyed when it turns out in the end that he isn’t.

Arrogance on the part of the meritorious is even more offensive to us than the arrogance of those without merit: for merit itself is offensive.

Do whatever you will, but first be such as are able to will.

Faith: not wanting to know what is true.

For the woman, the man is a means: the end is always the child.

God is a thought who makes crooked all that is straight.

I cannot believe in a God who wants to be praised all the time.

I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance.

In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point.

In heaven, all the interesting people are missing.

In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.

Is man one of God’s blunders? Or is God one of man’s blunders?

It is good to express a thing twice right at the outset and so to give it a right foot and also a left one. Truth can surely stand on one leg, but with two it will be able to walk and get around.

It is impossible to suffer without making someone pay for it; every complaint already contains revenge.

It is the most sensual men who need to flee women and torment their bodies.

Love is blind; friendship closes its eyes.

Love is not consolation. It is light.

Mystical explanations are thought to be deep; the truth is that they are not even shallow.

No one lies so boldly as the man who is indignant.

One has to pay dearly for immortality; one has to die several times while one is still alive.

One may sometimes tell a lie, but the grimace that accompanies it tells the truth.

One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star.

One often contradicts an opinion when what is uncongenial is really the tone in which it was conveyed.

One ought to hold on to one’s heart; for if one lets it go, one soon loses control of the head too.

One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly.

Perhaps I know why it is man alone who laughs: He alone suffers so deeply that he had to invent laughter.

Shared joys make a friend, not shared sufferings.

Sleeping is no mean art: for its sake one must stay awake all day.

Success has always been a great liar.

Talking much about oneself can also be a means to conceal oneself.

That which does not kill us makes us stronger.

The “kingdom of Heaven” is a condition of the heart – not something that comes “upon the earth” or “after death.”

The abdomen is the reason why man does not readily take himself to be a god.

The aphorism in which I am the first master among Germans, are the forms of “eternity”; my ambition is to say in ten sentences what everyone else says in a book – what everyone else does not say in a book.

The best author will be the one who is ashamed to become a writer.

The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad.

The demand to be loved is the greatest of all arrogant presumptions.

The desire to annoy no one, to harm no one, can equally well be the sign of a just as of an anxious disposition.

The doer alone learneth.

The future influences the present just as much as the past.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.

The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it.

The lie is a condition of life.

The most common lie is that which one lies to himself; lying to others is relatively an exception.

The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.

The true man wants two things: danger and play. For that reason he wants woman, as the most dangerous plaything.

The word “Christianity” is already a misunderstanding – in reality there has been only one Christian, and he died on the Cross.

There are horrible people who, instead of solving a problem, tangle it up and make it harder to solve for anyone who wants to deal with it. Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.

There are no eternal facts, as there are no absolute truths.

There are no facts, only interpretations.

There are people who want to make men’s lives more difficult for no other reason than the chance it provides them afterwards to offer their prescription for alleviating life; their Christianity, for instance.

There cannot be a God because if there were one, I could not believe that I was not He.

There is always some madness in love. But there is also always some reason in madness.

There is not enough love and goodness in the world to permit giving any of it away to imaginary beings.

There is not enough religion in the world even to destroy religion.

This is what is hardest: to close the open hand because one loves.

Those who cannot understand how to put their thoughts on ice should not enter into the heat of debate.

Thoughts are the shadows of our feelings – always darker, emptier and simpler.

Today I love myself as I love my god: who could charge me with a sin today? I know only sins against my god; but who knows my god?

Two great European narcotics, alcohol and Christianity.

Undeserved praise causes more pangs of conscience later than undeserved blame, but probably only for this reason, that our power of judgment are more completely exposed by being over praised than by being unjustly underestimated.

We hear only those questions for which we are in a position to find answers.

We love life, not because we are used to living but because we are used to loving.

We often refuse to accept an idea merely because the tone of voice in which it has been expressed is unsympathetic to us.

We should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once. And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh.

What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger.

Whatever is done for love always occurs beyond good and evil.

Whoever battles with monsters had better see that it does not turn him into a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

Whoever despises himself nonetheless respects himself as one who despises.

Whoever feels predestined to see and not to believe will find all believers too noisy and pushy: he guards against them.

Wit is the epitaph of an emotion.

Without music, life would be a mistake.

Words are but symbols for the relations of things to one another and to us; nowhere do they touch upon absolute truth.

You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.


Posted 5 March, 2012 by manabrau in Uncategorized

the concern i have with belief … (religiorant)   Leave a comment

the concern i have with belief is that most people just want to get along and live their lives as peacefully as possible, whether they believe in god or not. So if people are generally all the same, what’s with all the people bragging that they “believe”?

What difference does that make? who cares if you believe? what’s the point of believing?

People who insist on telling others that they are indeed, “believers”, are the reason why atheists are so outspoken, ironically, it’s those believers who go around telling everyone that they are believers that are the people that complain the most about atheists venting their views but if believers weren’t so outspoken they wouldn’t need to complain about the atheists being outspoken in the first place.

therein lies the problem I have with believers: they insist on being believers. If believers had of kept their traps shut about being believers, then atheists would not have had an incentive to be outspoken.

What I mean is that at least the non-believers and people who keep their beliefs to themselves are not bragging about being “good” people, which is the underlying implication that i find in all the “christians” who insist that “believing” somehow makes them a “better” person..

i’m sorry but how much is there to the whole Jesus thing anyway?

he supposedly said you should love everyone ..

okay … great idea … got it … now let’s *see* people claiming to be christian, love everyone (or at least be nice to them), all the time…

because as far as I can tell, there would seem to be no distinction between how good people behave in general, whether they claim to believe or not, but the thing for believers is that if you’re going to brag about being a good moral religious person, then you should at least fucking *be* one …

if you’re going to brag about anything, you have got to back-up your bragging with actions, so if you’re bragging about being a good person, the only time you should have a chance to brag about being a good person is in between your deeds of kindness, except, that Jesus was very clear that bragging about doing good deeds is not a good thing, because then you are doing those good deeds, *because* you want people to praise you for doing them. Some christians even want to be praised merely for being a christian…. That is not how the universe works, you have got to be a good person *before* you go bragging that you are a christian, at least that’s how the universe works in my book.

when i was growing up, you could tell if someone was christian by how frikking nice they were being.

i mean, it used to be a case of “oh no!! it’s a Jesus freak! prepare to be bored to death about how to be nice to everyone by someone being overly nice” …

now whenever i happen to see someone touting their “christian” beliefs, I just roll my eyes and switch off my brain because I feel compelled to tell them to shut the fuck up and stop ragging on everything that they don’t agree with especially when those things that they are criticising are none of their fucking business.

Posted 7 September, 2011 by manabrau in Uncategorized

the word faith has been overused … (mincing words)   Leave a comment

the word “faith” has been overused, it pretty much means nothing to be a person of “faith” these days

“oh what’s that? you’re a person of ‘faith’? well whooop dee frigging doo dah mate, you want fries with that? a Mickey Mouse badge, perhaps?”

if a non-believer does have any “faith”, then it is faith in common sense and reason, therefore, those that do not exhibit common sense and reason, commit blasphemy against the “faith” of the non-believer… well, why not… quid pro quo, Clarice

and the word miracle – has been obliterated – a plane crashes – 200 people die, but a dog survives, and that’s a miracle – no, you stupid fuck tards – a miracle would have been 200 people surviving as well as the dog surviving!

so believe in miracles as much as you want, because the word “miracle” is worn out any way…

it’s a miracle gravity made something form out of nothing,
it’s a miracle the big bang happened,
it’s a miracle evolution happened,
it’s a miracle we came down from the trees,
it’s a miracle we can dream up such elaborate fairy tales like “god”

so believe in god, the word is worn out any way, make up your own god… Pez dispensor … electricity … ice cream … these things have more credibility than the “being” people think of as “god”, these things are “realer” than your belief in whatever it is you think you believe in… hell, Luke Skywalker is “realer” than god will ever be

2010-10-08 16:30

Posted 8 October, 2010 by manabrau in Uncategorized

What I believe…. (Episode 4 – The Force)   Leave a comment


OK… this isn’t part four it’s the first part… where have i heard that before?

but i keep writing this but i always end up waffling on, so here i go again, so bite me… (this is an extension of an earlier blog, which blog that was i do not know)

but what do i believe, in terms of god?..

i fracking don’t believe *anything* and if i did it would only be an opinion, a speculation… in fact, everyone on this planet who has an opinion about god, is only speculating, that includes believers and non-believers alike… so get over yourself, you don’t know, they don’t know and I don’t know.. get over yourself if you think you have ‘absolute’ knowledge of something immortal and supernatural, if you do ‘know’ something like that with certainly, it is most probably all in your head…

what I do know is there is some sort of consensus in the scientific community that the universe is expanding at an ever faster rate because of some ‘force’ pushing the galaxies apart at an ever faster rate… the way I see it is that the entire universe creates a kind of ‘solar wind’ effect pushing outwards with enough force to accelerate the galaxies.

We can see this solar wind in our own local solar system and how it interacts with comets as the tail of a comet always points away from the sun. The solar wind has enough energy to melt the comet’s surface ice and then accelerate that material away from the comet at faster speeds than the comet is moving. We see this as the comet’s tail of is in *front* of the comet even as the comet is on the way *out* of the inner solar system..

so imagine that solar wind on a cosmic scale…. that’s The Force and it’s the biggest thing in the universe… bigger than the ‘material’ universe.. that Force defines the size of the universe, because if you were not in it’s range you wouldn’t know our universe was there!..

although this Force doesn’t exactly bind the galaxies together, that’s gravity, but it does surround us and it is everywhere because where this energy isn’t, it would be hard to call that particular place a part of the universe if light from our universe hadn’t reached that spot yet, don’t you think? and this Force comes from the sun along with trillions of other stars, and the sun does give us life.. nothing would be here if not for the sun…

“Here comes the sun and I say it’s alright”

There is no other thing in the universe that is everywhere and is connected to everything else, the Cosmological Solar Wind… aka The Force! 😀

ps. yes dark energy is what people like to say – but what makes more sense? the cumulative effect of every star in the universes’ solar wind is pushing the universe apart, or some mysterious dark energy that we don’t know the origin of is doing this pushing apart of the universe?

Posted 21 May, 2008 by manabrau in Uncategorized