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global warming is happening – GET OVER IT (science V artards)   Leave a comment

RETARDS v SCIENCE
global warming – it’s happening, get over it

still i am seeing people who are denying that global warming is happening – there are even politicians in the USA that are trying to legislate that it’s a bunch of bullshit! WTF?!?!

global warming is happening – GET OVER IT – the last decade has been the hottest… the decade before that was the hottest at the time, and the decade before that was the hottest at the time too…

it’s happening – anyone denying it now is a victim of misleading propaganda

here is the most complete set of data from my local area that i could find from our weather bureau, the Cape Moreton Lighthouse…

as you can see, this particular weather station is out on near the Pacific Ocean so the temperatures will be less variable than an inland weather station. This is because the ocean retains heat better than dry land, meaning temperatures from this station will be influenced by the ocean temperature to a greater extent. ie. places on the coast have cooler summers and milder winters, especially on eastern coastlines.

Inland cities like Canberra are mostly really cold in winter and mostly really hot in summer and Brisbane on the coast gets barely a week of cold days in a row, and pretty much every second hot summer day ends in a storm.

This means that the variations in the average maximum temperature for each month, and from season to season will be less noticeable because the ocean is nearby. The ocean also mitigates the effects of random years being hotter or colder, like if one year is hotter than normal, and if the temp goes back to normal the next year, the ocean won’t have had a chance to have been heated by the atmosphere.

In order for the ocean temp to be heated up by the sun and the atmosphere, it has to be consistently hotter for more than a year or two. This is also why the seasons are slightly delayed in their arrivals, eg. summer starts in December down under, but the sun is highest in the sky (thus more heat reaches the Earth’s surface, as there is less atmosphere to travel through) during November December and January, and yet the temp keeps going up until at least February is over.. The delay in heating (or cooling in winter) is caused by the oceans, in that it takes a while to get them heated, and once they are heated, they tend to stay that way, until at least about March, then it starts to get colder when the sun is no longer directly overhead, so there is less radiation reaching the surface to be heating the oceans as effectively.

Water retaining heat is also why you can get burnt with steam, water vapour retains heat and energy, so it dissipates relatively slowly in the air as it only has the thin air to “bleed off” the heat to, but on the other hand, as soon as steam touches your skin, it suddenly has something to absorb the heat in the steam, that rapid transfer of heat into your skin is what causes “steam burns”..

but anyway, back to the weather data, i’ve selected the “median or less” to be highlighted in the images below as the median favours “normal” temps and tends to exclude temps that might skew the average (aka, the mean)… but it doesn’t really matter, all the data tends to show what I’m saying, have a look at the other settings – the 95 percentile or more shows the hottest five percent of months – mostly grouped into the last decade… same thing for the average as well

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/weatherData/av?p_nccObsCode=36&p_display_type=dataFile&p_startYear=&p_stn_num=040043

from 1913-1990 you can clearly see that most of the months that had temps below the median were loosely clumped together during those years…

but what do we see during the last twenty years?

we see an obvious cluster of hotter months, above the median temperature.

the temperature is going up people, this is a fact …

find any continuous set of weather data for nearly a hundred years and I’m thinking you’ll find similar trends.

Have a look at Sydney, the exact same trend is there too…

so two out of the two sets of data for coastal cities I picked, indicate that the temp is going up, feel free to look up more data…. ask if you don’t understand what it all means.

IT’S HAPPENING AND IT WON’T GO AWAY

the temperature is going up … this is happening right now, the trend isn’t towards a status quo, things aren’t going to remain the same as they are now and it’s not going to go away.

If it’s our fault, then it’s unlikely we can change our ways significantly for at least a few decades.

China have already announced they will look to cut their emissions by 2050 … that’s FORTY years from now ..

that’s how dependant countries are on industries that create emissions, that’s how dependant we are on things staying the way they are right now..

For example, if China suddenly stopped producing exports, the world would suddenly have to pay lots more, for a *lot* of stuff, and we would probably see a significant percentage of the world population fall below the poverty line because of it, yes, even more people will be in povery. Which would mean our Western way of life would begin to resemble poorer countries with slums around major cities, for starters.

So regardless of global warming being somebody’s fault, there is nothing we can do to stop it, or rather, there is nothing that we *could* do that would not result a drastic shift in how our world of convenience works…

we could stop all the industry, we could stop driving cars, smoking cigarettes, burning coal for electricity, we *can* stop doing all those things.

it’s just that we won’t, because our society depends on these things, and/or too many of us like our creature comforts, and our vices, and our freedoms to escape away in our cars or jet about the planet, and many of us love our motors sports burning up fuel just for the fun of it.

we could stop cutting down trees and stop using quadruple ply lush scented toilet paper to wipe our bums.

we could do all of these things, but we won’t.. and why is that?

because we like the good things in life, we deserve to have the good things, do we not?

That’s how we were raised, we were raised to think that everyone single person on earth could potentially could rule the world, and failing that, a rock star, a test pilot, an astronaut, etc etc .. we all aspire to far greater heights than we are likely to achieve.

We’ve all been raised, on television to believe that one day we’d be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars. But we won’t. We’re slowly learning that fact. And we’re very, very pissed off.
–[Tyler Durden]

and we deserve the good life, why not? hence, it’s obvious why we won’t do anything about global warming, we are *selfish*.

but it doesn’t matter, a couple degrees increase might not seem like much, but it’s a cascade effect.

Already we are seeing things that we never thought about before with the climate changing

Just recently, for example, in the Arctic ocean north of Siberia, the sea is warming up, and guess what? There just happens to be a swag of *methane* locked under that previously frozen bit of sea bed, which is now bubbling to the surface.

And if you are wondering, methane is like twenty times more effective as a green house gas than carbon dioxide is, and if all that methane gets released into the atmosphere… well then I hope you don’t live too close to the ocean.

The Daily Galaxy – Billions of Tons of Methane Beneath Frozen Arctic Destablizing, Scientists Warn

so what do we do about global warming?

global warming isn’t the problem, if global warming is happening, it doesn’t matter if we are responsible, it’s too late for assigning blame for that now anyway.

it’s our attitude of passing the buck to the next guy that’s the problem….. the biggest deal with global warming at the moment, is that too many people think it’s hoax. So it’s dismissed.. That’s the easiest thing to do… that’s what the intellectually challenged do.

Fox news didn’t tell them what to think, or rather, they told them to think the wrong thing.

How can we do anything about it when everyone isn’t on board with the facts? They dwell over the one report that comes out that had misleading information, and suddenly the whole thing is a hoax.

Come on people, use your head.

THE TEMPERATURE IS GOING UP – GET USED TO IT

the temp is going up – we can’t stop it, even if we tried, we’re just not smart enough to suddenly be able to provide clean power to all of our industries.

But what we can do, with our limited abilities, is stop the polluting of our planet, and if that just happens to fix global warming at the same time, then so be it

you can

* plant trees and other flora to eat all the carbon dioxide
* use public transport
* conserve electricity, if every person on earth with electricity had one less light operating … well, i’m sure it would be a good start
* move to high ground
* stop watching commercial television, it shortens your attention span, and inspires you to buy crap u don’t need.
* get your news from multiple sources, if you read some fantastic story, check out if some other source says the same
* speak up, get on twitter and retransmit stories you like
* stop misinformation being spread
* ask questions

governments can

* tax the hell out of “wasteful” or “flamboyant” or “excessive” life styles, car racing, gambling, fuel guzzlers, if people have money to waste, they can send it towards useful endeavours.

* encourage purchasing of efficient and practical modes of transport, none of these big engine cars, noisy chopper bikes, no more gold mags on cars and none of this silly spending on cars that have shock absorbers that can make the car bounce like it’s on a trampoline

* encourage big business to donate to scientific endeavours, instead of buying off politicians with campaign donations so they’ll support legislation in their favour, big business could be using the money actually *do* something useful and impress society by giving back to all us little people who buy their shit

the point here is that, our selfish ways are going to have to stop, we *need* business and industry to keep going, so we, the regular people need to give up our creature comforts, because we don’t *need* to watch cars go around a track, we don’t need to turn on every light in the house, we don’t need to buy that Ferrari, we don’t need to spend tens of thousands of dollars on weddings, we don’t need to buy 2000Watt speaker systems for our hi-rise apartment, especially seeing that just having the volume at a minimum level means the whole building can hear it.

people often complain that the rich are getting richer as the poor are getting poorer, but that’s the basic concept of *capitalism*, that is the basic model of our western society, and yet people get upset about socialist policies which are designed to remedy that chasm between rich and poor.

we are selfish, and the utterly stupid bit about it, is that most of us don’t even reap the rewards of that selfishness, as it’s the rich minority that benefit from our covetous society.

Posted 23 March, 2010 by manabrau in global-warming, M.S., Science

Letting global warming happen?   Leave a comment

WEIRD SCIENCE RANT
Letting global warming happen?

I’m no expert on world climate, nor am i an expert on what would happen if the sea levels and temp did rise (would there be more hurricanes and cyclones? how many people would be affected? where would they go? etc etc), and to be honest, this could be totally wrong, so if we keep that in mind…

..from what I’ve read about global warming if we keep going the way we are, we will have to deal with a sea level rise of about two metres over the next hundred years or so…

in countries with strong infrastructure, that’s probably not going to be a massively big deal, especially if it happens over decades and action can be planned in advance etc..

however.. in third world countries a lot of people live on low lying river flood plains as that’s where their food is grown, these places already flood nearly every year anyway, it’s expected!

but, a significant portion of the world lives in these areas, so if the sea levels go up, they will have to move inland or perish! 😦 Some of these low lying countries are already over crowded, a huge push inland of millions of people could lead to famines and wars. For instance, there’s not much high ground in Bangladesh at all.

Land areas effected by Sea level rising

also effected would be low lying regions of Indonesia, Thailand, Egypt, Pakistan, Iraq, and all of these places have high population densities already.. moving these people elsewhere would be an extreme problem to those affected.

from the various speculations on the interwebz, the average population that would be affected if the sea level were to somehow rise two metres today, is about fifty million people, which would probably mean that another fifty million people would be affected by having to share the land with these new arrivals … soo lets say a hundred million people world wide would be affected … not a small amount of people.

…, but if we ignore the displacement of millions of people for a moment, if the temperature does go up, doesn’t that mean there will be more moisture in the air?

now correct me if my high school science is rusty, but hotter air can hold more moisture, and with the temperature up, more water will evaporate from the oceans, and with more water in the air, it stands to reason that it’s going to rain more often, right?

now I know that as the temp goes up so does the temperature at which it can rain also goes up as well, but hello, moisture into the air during the day, wouldn’t that all rain down at night time? hmmm… maybe i’m just being stupid

Water vapour at wikipedia

sure we don’t want all those people along coast lines to have to move or have them stomped upon by mother nature, but what is happening to this planet?

it’s *drying* up isn’t it?

There are deserts that haven’t seen rain in decades on this planet, don’t we *want* more rain? I think there is a desert in Chile that hasn’t gotten rain in a hundred years!!

Here’s a good article about global temperature change

http://www.pittmag.pitt.edu/mar96/m96classesh.html

Now i’m not saying that if it rains more, it’s going to rain on the spots that need it, but it’s a start is it not?

So if the temperature goes up, sure we’ll get more storms and floods, but if it brings rain to the frikking desert doesn’t that mean that trees and grass can grow again, thus the deserts will *stop* growing and allowing more rain forests to grow??

Now i am certainly not saying go and dirty up the planet and *make* the temperature rise on purpose, but if we have more rain, doesn’t that mean we can feed more people? Clean drinking water is a major problem in Africa, but it if rains often enough, those local communities can store their own drinking water and rivers will flow again bringing fresh water.

What if the temperature were to drop, wouldn’t that be worse? Aren’t places cold enough already? If the temp stays the same, aren’t the deserts just going to keep getting bigger anyway? The Rain Forests shrank during the Ice Ages, there’s some evidence that the Amazon turned into savannah grass land.

Here’s a graph of temp/carbon/dust levels over the last 400,000 years

just what sort of conditions did the Amazon and Congo and all the rain forests form under anyway?? do you think it was during the ice age? bzzz! no!! where are all the rain forests? near the equator, right? where it’s hot!

Some cool info about the biggest rain forest, the Amazon…

so if we have more areas with hot enough conditions to suit rain forests, don’t we then create more natural carbon absorbers? not to mention that more ocean surface area from the higher sea levels means more area to absorb the carbon and more moisture in the air means more clouds and more clouds means more heat is reflected back into space in the first place…

the planet self regulates, but like i said at the start, i have only a very basic understanding of what would happen long term, but if the temperature goes up, it *will* mean that we lose coastal areas to the ocean, but won’t we also “gain” inland areas?

isn’t a whole chunk of the planet uninhabitable because it’s too frinking cold or dry to live there? Imagine if Antarctica became suitable for *farm* land? I’m sure Siberia could take a few refugees too, gawd, why don’t they move Bangladesh to Siberia?

of course if the temp goes up, it’s likely that the animals that are accustomed to having the wilderness to themselves will not enjoy the spread of mankind onto their turf but sheesh, i can’t think of everything. but if each country had their own sufficient supply of water for everyone, isn’t that one basic need that is met? don’t people go to war over water supplies?

lack of clean water means ppl are forced to risk drinking dirty water, drinking dirty water can lead to dysentery, which leads to death if not treated. lack of any water at all means farms don’t get watered, and if no there is food, people go hungry and eventually die…

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the temperature of the planet could stand to go up a degree or two……..

if there *is* a conspiracy about global warming, wouldn’t it be more beneficial to those shady “powers that be” new world order types to *keep* the massive populations pre-occupied with their squabbles over basic needs? Maybe when it gets really bad they will come to the “rescue” and form their world government on the premise that since the world is in crisis because of an extreme lack of clean water, that the richer nations *must* share resources with other nations, and foot the expense of getting it there?

I’m sorry to say it, but if Africa keeps going the way it is, then aren’t we going to end up with another massive famine again? actually it’s already bad

This cycle will keep repeating, and eventually countries will need to look out for their own people as their own natural resources dwindle.

so I say *let* the temperature go up, podgy fat arses like me would have to lose some weight to handle the increase in temperature but this is a good thing.. and people are bound to bitch about having mozzie season all year, or even finding out what a mozzie is in the first place,

and what are we worrying about global warming for anyway, if it gets to be too much, we can just call up China!

Chinese scientists artificially induced the second major snowstorm to wreak havoc in Beijing this season, state media said, reigniting debate over the practice of tinkering with Mother Nature.

Posted 15 November, 2009 by manabrau in global-warming, Science