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why i don’t believe in (your) god … (religiorant)   Leave a comment

—INTRODUCTION—

god – is supposedly a being that is beyond all comprehension of the human mind, right?

everywhere and nowhere at once, infinitely intelligent, has lived and will live forever, right?

so if one is truly a believer, shouldn’t one just accept that their god is the frikking greatest almighty being of all time and space and beyond and that god made *everything* and just leave it at that?

meaning to say that if god made the universe, then so fucking what?! If that is true, then we don’t need to hear about every little detail of all the things that this god has supposedly done; we’ve all heard the stories at some point about how god made, well, *everything* and that kind of accounts for, you know, *every*fucking*thing* …

so when people start pointing out all the individual things that this god of theirs has done – i find it to be kind of pointless and somewhat conceited, in other words, you are “up yourself” if you insist on frequently showing off your god by telling everyone about how great your god is by telling us all about every little minuscule detail of all the things that your god has allegedly done.

so why bother insulting your god by even attempting to fathom one iota of what it is about by spouting your mouth off over the things it has supposedly done?

it’s like bragging about how your buddy made a web page, when this buddy of yours not only made the whole web site; he wrote the software that is running that web site; built the hardware that runs the web site with his bare hands; built, invented and installed every component of the internet such that you can view that web page… etc etc… and here you are, fucking bragging about some insignificant tiny web page, sheeesh.. think small much?..

and “yes!”, when it comes to god, creating a whole fucking universe is an insignificant thing to a god. It *is* god we are talking about, is it not? god can do any fucking thing, stop thinking so fucking small with your petty arguments that god made the universe, if I was a god, I would be embarrassed about having made only one fucking universe and even worse still is that I would be so fucking annoyed at my followers for assuming that one pissy little universe is my greatest claim to fame, what about all the other shit god has done? Oh what’s that? You aren’t privvy to all the other stuff that god has done? That is my fucking point, your ideas of what god has done are so insignificant that it is not worth mentioning, even one trillion-trillionth of what god knows far exceeds your knowledge of this supposedly infinitely endowed god creature of yours.

—MIDDLE BIT—

god is undefinable – by openly admitting to a belief in god, what you are really saying is, at least in some tiny part, that you *know* something of the *undefinable* god, with the implication being that *YOU* know god *better* than anybody that you are blabbering at with your well rehearsed list of all the godly god things that make your god so great.

How can you possibly know anything, whatsoever, about something that is undefinable?

god is god, that is the only nano-particle of information that you have about god and that is *all* you should require to be a believer.

One can only imagine that these believers that blabber on all the time are *showing*off* their god and this is doubly true when these conceited believers are conversing with an atheist, telling them how wonderful god is because of all the shit this god creature made.

but for all the wondrous things that god has done, god itself remains undefinable and yet believing in this undefinable god, as many outspoken “christians” would tell us, is mandatory for being a moral person?

How can you be a moral person when you don’t know squat about god and yet this stuff that you know nothing about, somehow surreptitiously makes you a morally good person?

How does that work?

and please don’t tell me the things that god wanted people to know about are in the bible, well, if that is true, then what has god got to do with it?

why are you not actually following what it says in the bible? Why do people conveniently ignore the fact that their precious messiah, said that to be a good moral person, you need to give to the needy.

If 10% of the richest people purporting to be christian actually gave significant amounts of their spare cash to the needy, there would be no such thing as a needy person. Especially when there are 2.2 billion christians currently and that christianity has been around for 2000 years… so when are you fucking “christians” going to get on with that helping the needy thing?

Don’t expect Jesus to come back until world poverty has been eliminated.

the belief in god is not required to be moral – how can believing in something, that is undefined, which the majority of believers don’t even actually fucking follow, make someone a moral person?

Believers can’t even agree on the morals taught in the their own religion! For instance, some christians are known to be hateful towards certain groups of people; eg. gays, atheists, etc.. yet Jesus teaches to love everyone, even your enemy; but clearly some christians find it too hard to obey this Jesus they allegedly get their morals from, apparently.

Basing your morality in something that is undefined means that you can and will make up any old shit to suit your moral tastes and whims, which is exactly the accusation that christians often level at non-believers, the only difference being is that christians slap a god label on their morals to give them credence, the non-believer does not need to slap on such a label to their moral choices in order to actually be moral, a non-believer does not need to be prodded or guilt tripped into being a good person, they are good persons of their *own* accord which is far more in-line with the teachings of that Jesus dude, so what the fuck is it with believers and their constant claims of how believing makes their morality better than everybody else’s?

For myself, I don’t believe in this Jesus most christians would purport to believe in, or rather I won’t believe in this Jesus because mere belief in some supernatural entity does NOT make me a good person, and to be frikking honest, I’ve not ever met a christian that was actually following the teachings of JC in the first place anyway, so why would I *also* pretend to follow Jesus like some false-christian lame-o wannabe? If JC is the actual god of this universe and is as powerful as these supposed believers say that he is, then isn’t pretending to be a believer going to piss god off far more than being a non-believer?

MAIN

god is *supposedly* the most fantastic and most spectacular and most intelligent being of all time and this god *supposedly* created the universe in however much time the believer reckons it took their god to do this ..

many people would agree with that notion of god …

but no …

they don’t …

not *really* …. they just *think* that they do ….

look at those believers who insist upon pointing out the little things that their god has done … not only is that idolatry, but it is also *pathetic* and a sign of a weak and fearful mind because that person needs constant reassurance that their god is *real* and this is achieved by pointing out all the things that god has done… ie. the more you tell yourself a lie, the more it becomes the truth to you.

for example: god made the cute smile of a baby; god made the fluffy bunny-rabbit-shaped clouds in the sky; god saved the little boy from the plane crash (so it’s a miracle, of course); god made the earth; god made the universe; god did this; god did that …..

it’s pathetic because if believers truly believed in an all-fantastic god, then what is the purpose of pointing out every little thing that this god has done?

beat a dead horse much? aren’t your arms getting tired from wanking yourself while you are getting off on the self-informed notion that you are a heaven-bound believer?

The frequency of rabid believers and their often spouted mantras of god’s creations leads one to wonder if the believer is trying to convince others that god made the universe or if they are indeed trying to convince *themselves*…

it’s like “we heard you the first gazillion times you flapped your mouth about god, give it a rest already!”

if god made the *entire* universe then it should then be a GIVEN FACT that god made the fluffy clouds and the laugh of a baby and all those other warm and fuzzy things – to harp over the little things that god has done, is *proof* that you don’t truly believe in the awesomeness of god creating *everything* that is in existence because if you truly believed in this god of yours, you would not even bother pointing out all those little things because you would be so comfortable, or more likely in *awe* with the knowledge that god made everything it would not occur to you that it was necessary to dwell over every little thing god has done.

Belief in god should be like breathing; it is something that you do, one should not need to go around telling everyone about it.

bragging about all the minuscule things that god has done is akin to stating how clever an adult is by bragging about something they first mastered when that adult was two years old. except, it’s infinitely worse.

—THE POINT—

see, that’s why i don’t believe in your god, because for any god that you could propose to me, there is no doubt in my mind that this god-notion of yours could be “out-godded” eventually by something *better* than your god.

So given this notion that mortal ideas of god can always be bettered, there is no point in putting any sort of boundary upon god, so if you want to believe in god, just *believe* in it, any prattling on about it, merely serves to remove its infinitely wondrous nature because you are putting your grubby little mortal limits on what this god of yours is all about.

So for all your pointing out of all the little things that god has done, you idiot, all you do is admit that you can not comprehend the vastness of god, which is probably why you believe in god in the first place, you can’t wrap your little brain around that which is infinite and that is nothing to be ashamed of because who can grasp the infinite nature of the universe?

At least non-believers don’t use something to cover up the fact that they don’t know the answers to the big questions in life, seriously, do you see non-believers walking around saying “god didn’t do that, god didn’t do this, nature made that, nature made this, i don’t know how this was made, nor do I know how that was made” .. these are things that I do NOT need to say! I don’t *need* an answer to every fucking question in existence!! I have no problem with not knowing *everything* and I do *not* need a temporary answer to fill in the gap while I wait for a better answer than “I don’t know!”

as a non-believer it is a given fact that things exist, I do not *need* to *know* the final and complete answer of how they came about but the pursuit of that knowledge is what I enjoy, it is what makes the universe an interesting place to be in.

If we did know everything about the universe how boring would it be?

(most) non-believers accept the universe “as is” and believers should do the same because whether your god made the universe or not is irrelevant in the here and now if you are actually following your precious Jesus and his two commandments …

mostly written 23rd August 2011, mostly, maybe I take things by their definition to the extreme too much, but regardless of this….

LORD’s prayer in Australia Parliament … (religiorant)   Leave a comment

RELIGIORANT
LORD’s prayer in Australia Parliament …

The Australian Parliament opens its session with the parliamentary speaker saying something along the lines of…

“HARRY JENKINS, SPEAKER (excerpt from parliamentary prayers): Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive them who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory, forever and ever, Amen.”

ABC insiders 13/02/2011

This is wrong, and goes against the wishes of the very deity to which they pray:

Matthew 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

*facepalm*

By doing this prayer thing in public, you dishonour Jesus, so your prayers will definitely go unanswered.

If somebody told you to not suck up to them in public, and you kept doing it, what would you expect to happen?

Related References:

http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/pubs/aso/so_050.htm

http://www.secular.org.au/mnu-viewpoints/mnu-separation-of-church-and-state

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/opinion/editorial/general/drop-parliamentary-prayer-and-adopt-secular-ways/1346072.aspx?storypage=0