TEN commandments are redundant… (religiofact)   Leave a comment

RELIGIOFACT

mostly written 19/02/2010 …. mostly ….

i’m really trying to keep these blogs short – but, these are my ramblings, so screw you, urrr, ahem, I mean they are my understanding of the bible, which, much to my disbelief, I apparently seem to exceed the average christians’ understanding of said book…

although I shouldn’t be surprised.

SHORTish BLOG

The TEN commandments of the OLD Testament are out of date, that is to say that

they are redundant, and they are no longer needed.

you got that?

TEN commandments == OLD School == Judaism

TWO commandments == New School == Christianity

the central message of christianity, is the TWO commandments that Jesus gave…

you got that??? TWO COMMANDMENTS – NOT TEN COMMANDMENTS OR FOUR OR FIVE OR SEVEN – BUT

TWO COMMANDMENTS

*everything* *christian* hangs upon these two statements:

1. Love god before all other gods
2. Love thy neighbour as thyself

and that is it, that is all you need to actually know to from the bible to be *christian*.

Jesus said it himself, these two things are to held above all others.

So if there is an apparent conflict with something else taught in the bible, then these two commandments are to take precedence in the christian faith.

NO EXCEPTIONS *EVER*

The only complication you could/should apply to these TWO commandments, is to take that second commandment, and make it into a generic one.

By doing that, you can make it replace the TEN commandments. This notion is, in fact, stated in the *bible*.

eg. Don’t kill him if you don’t want him to kill you. Don’t steal from this dude if you don’t want this dude to steal from you, don’t tell lies if you don’t want to be lied to, don’t lust after my woman if you don’t want me to lust after yours etc etc etc

If you don’t hold these two commandments above all else – you are not christian, it’s as simple as that, and you need to get off your high horse quick smart and pent and repent and rerepent and rererepent, *quick*smart*, because if there *is* a god, then *YOU* are the biggest sinners and blasphemers out of the lot of us as you’ve taken what little good there is in the bible, and you have ignored it completely and utterly.

but of course, if you know otherwise, feel free to bash my non-believer head in with the same bible I got this shit from, but it says quite clearly in two of the gospels, and it also says it, not so clearly, in the other two gospels, and it is even indicated as such by Paul and in several other places, that this is the way of things in christianity and that nothing else out ranks these things.

The long blog explains about how the christians have got their christianity wrong…. in Biblical detail

LONG BLOG

i’m not sure i’ve mentioned this yet but, or rather, i am not sure who i said this to, but recently i was told, after mentioning the TWO commandments of Jesus, that I was making shit up about Jesus.

now now – don’t laugh at me and say “YOU DO THAT *ALLL* THE TIME!!!” .. this is true, but not this time

I was told that these two commandments I had “made up” were in fact, “Jedi tricks”, which means that they were, in fact, NOT teachings of Jesus….

hmmmm. .. So Jesus’ two commandments, are Jedi mind tricks? hmmm… you flatter the Jedi, Sir!

so after pointing out that the bible does indeed refer to these teachings as the “two commandments” (King James Version) – I was then told that I was the *only* person who had ever referred to them as such.

Admittedly, I didn’t realise these TWO commandments were called ‘commandments’ until about a month ago either… but then again, I did not care, as I stopped being a christian a very long time ago, if ever I was one that is, so my memory was flaky over that point, but someone calling themselves christian, should at least know that much.

I mean they are the two BIGGEST points of christianity, right?

Seems to me that the TEN commandments have been entrenched in the minds of too many people, and they’ve not got around to actually being taught about what Jesus actually said, it would seem to me, that people are just *saying* that they are christian and get *really* upset when some heathen scum like me, knows their story better than they do.

I for one always think of that big arse movie when I hear about the TEN commandments, with what’s his face, National Rifle Assocation dude, what’s his name.. that dude… Heston.. that’s right.. Planet of the Apes… it’s a mad house, I tells yah!

but why do i say such a thing? It would seem that the vast majority of people claiming to be christians have it *wrong*, that’s why.

I hear christians saying the TEN commandments this ra ra ra ra the TEN commandments that ra ra ra ra … I wonder if it’s because TEN sounds more significant than TWO?

So, it’s a fact, that there are some christians in this world who are sooo fucking dumb that they don’t know the FIRST OR THE SECOND THING ABOUT CHRISTIANITY, LITERALLY….

So…. just how many Christians hold the ten commandments above the TWO?

There’s one, so it’s likely there will be more of them, probably thousands, possibly millions.

At this moment in history, I suspect that there could be as many as 30 million versions of christianity.

I believe a very lengthy survey of christians would be required to detect how extensive the damage is… but….

It’s quite joyous.

Glorious even!

is it not?

Matthew 22:36-40 (36) Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law? (37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. (38) This is the first and great commandment. (39) And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. (40) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

So here we have it, Matthew and Mark say it outright in the King James Version, that these are commandments, and that they outrank, supersede, replace, supplant, exceed and make redundant the TEN commandments.

Take special note of the closing phrases – there is no other commandment greater than these – so when Jesus said he came to fulfil the law, he says that on these two commandments, hang *all* the law.

To me this says that the TEN commandments, while still valid, are outranked or outdated by the TWO because the TEN commandments are all applicable to either one of the TWO commandments Jesus gave anyway, especially when you view the second commandment in a generic light. eg.

Old: you should not kill.
New: You should not kill if you do not want to be killed.

Mark 12:29-31 (29) And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: (30) And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment. (31) And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

So clearly, in Matthew and in Mark, TWO of the FOUR gospels, it says that the TWO commandments are above and beyond the instructions that the TEN commandments gave.

And the second of the TWO commandments can be applied generically, so therefore can apply to most situations, so it seems pretty clear that the TEN commandments are redundant, as the TWO address situations that the TEN do not..

One could say that the TEN commandments have FULFILLED their purpose, as the generic nature of the second commandment applies to lots of things,

“don’t insult me if you don’t want me to insult you”
“mind your own business about my sexual orientation, and I’ll mind my business about your sexual orientation”

of course… the whole thing is categorically a fail… as clearly, ppl don’t “get” it .. and these people are probably in the minority, but they are so arrogant, that more than likely they are the ones shouting the loudest that they are “faithful” to the christian, ahem, cause? This is called an affirmation, say it enough, and it must lay down neural path ways or something like that so that way of thinking becomes natural. Like if you walk over the same bit of grass often enough, you end up making a path, and to deviate from that path is quite difficult because it’s easier to stick to the path….

It’s amazing, i am stunned, i am flabbergasted…. people just don’t get the whole “do unto others, as you would prefer they do unto you” .. How can that be?

I am mortified and ecstatic at the same time, actually. mortified that these people exist, but ecstatic because this is exactly what I want to see. That being that people are so blinded by their faith that they literally don’t know the first thing about it …

what non-believer would not enjoy that?

and if the TWO gospels aren’t enough to convince the dumbarse christian out there that they have their religion utterly wrong, here’s some more supporting “evidence” from the bible….

Luke 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

The Gospel of Luke said something similar to the “do unto others” thing.

and here from the Gospel of John …

John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

John 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

so whatever you’re fave Gospel was … viola!! they all said the same thing.

and James taught….

James 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

even St Paul wrote something similar …. he even explains that the TWO commandants out rank the TEN by rattling off a few of the TEN, and then taking it one step further by saying, “if there be any other commandment”, you can apply the “love thy neighbour” thing to it ..

Romans 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if [there be] any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Did you read that? Both Jesus and Paul said this – no christian or born again paulian has any excuse for not following this … and if that isn’t good enough, here’s Saint I-made-my-self-an-apostle Paul again, rather succinctly this time.

Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

and just how many books did this John dude get to do anyway?

1 John 2:7-11 (7) Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. (8) Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. (9) He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. (10) He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. (11) But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

1 John 3:23-24 (23) And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. (24) And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

1 John 4:20-21 (20) If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? (21) And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

2 John 1:5-6 (5) And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another. (6) And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

Revelations 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

So all in all … they are COMMANDMENTS .. and please go check other versions of this godly word of yours, as I have done

of the SIXTEEN DIFFERENT bibles I bothered to check, nine use the word commandment, the tenth used “command” but still in the same context as to mean “commandment”, and one of them had a lot of the words replaced with the appropriate Hebrew words, and five others were in other languages completely so i had no idea what they said and meant.

but what does this also mean? It seems very clear to me, that the following statement should be exactly what every christians should get out of christianity::

Jesus said that “love god before all others” and “love thy neighbour as thyself” *replace* the TEN commandments and any *other* directive / commandment / suggestion / implication / order / recommendation / whatever …

if *any* thing in the bible comes into conflict with “love thy god before all others” and “love thy neighbour as you love thyself” – if *anything* comes into conflict with these TWO COMMANDMENTS, then the TWO COMMANDMENTS take *precedence*, they out rank every thing else, they make everything else superfluous..

So if you read the bible and somehow you get hatred or prejudice against certain types of people out of it, then shut the fuck up about it because you didn’t read your bible properly even half as well as you have claimed…

“Love thy neighbour, as thyself”

if you can’t do that, then stop pretending with your christscam, as we’re onto you, look for us, we’ll be there… we could be standing beside you right now, quietly laughing to ourselves at how STUPID you are.

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Posted 11 March, 2010 by manabrau in bible, jesus, M.S., Religion Sux Arse, T.E.A.M.S

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