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Jesus is LORD of Iraq!! (video/humour)   Leave a comment


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this is hilarious!!

have a listen to this guy in the video, sounds like he was a soldier in Iraq and he’s talking about a battle in Iraq…. and .. uhmmm….

DUMBARSE!!!

Jesus is up in heaven hanging his head in shame.. how can anyone be proud of invading and conquering a country, let alone call it in the name of Jesus???… let alone invade that country ON A LIE – *against* the wishes of the U.N.

this guy has some sort of Crusader Complex… not a healthy attitude at all…

if you don’t think the Iraqi war was based on a lie, then *you* have some serious issues and u need to turn off your TV and start thinking for yourself.

My government, the Australian government, withdrew the majority of our troops from Iraq because of the fact that the Iraqi war was based on a lie. This was made abundantly clear by our current Prime Minister. It’s also very likely that withdrawing our troops from Iraq was a big part of the reason why he won the last election.

The USA government has obliterated any trust the rest of the world has in the USA. What other LIES have the USA government been feeding us?

and what do we have? We have fuckwits like this dumb arse christian who ARE PROUD of killing in the name of Jesus…

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Posted 30 August, 2009 by manabrau in humour, iraq, jesus, rant, Religion Sux Arse, usa

Catholics move over, Sunni Islam is now the biggest cult   Leave a comment

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I forget what inspired me to look up this in the first place, but I have said in the past that if Catholics were not considered christians then guess what the biggest religion is? Catholicism!!!

but I thought i’d check my facts seeing how i hadn’t checked in a while in regard to the split of percentages in relation to Sunni and Shi’a Islam …

it turns out that the Sunni make up 85% of Islam and Shi’a the rest at 15%.

The vast majority of Muslims belong to one of two major denominations, the Sunni (roughly 85%) and Shi’a (roughly 15%).

now the total number of Muslims is said to be about, according to WikiPedia again,

With 1.3 billion to 1.8 billion Muslims, Islam is the second-largest religion in the world and the fastest growing religion in the world.[10][11]

Now if we take the lower estimate, so as to not be biased, if we take 85% of that,

1.3 billion x 85% = 1.105 billion Muslims

Now as far as I knew there were 2.1 billion christians, and just over half of those were Catholics, so 1.1 billion Catholics…

But god damn, the Pope claims that the “Church membership in 2007 was 1.147 billion people,”

but at any rate, if the Sunni aren’t actually the biggest religious cult (remember I picked the lower estimate for the total number for Islam) they will be soon and the world will soon no longer be dominated by Jesus Catholic Christ, and it will become dominated by a religion that for the first one hundred years of it’s history conquered all the lands from India, via North Africa to France.

Remember when the Muslims got upset that Pope Benedict mentioned that some Byzantine Emperor said that Islam went around conquering by the sword or some rubbish? uhmm… excuse me? do Muslims not know their own history? First hundred years, starting with Muhammad, that yellow area in the image above, that’s how far they went in a hundred years!! They kept trying to go further as well. The little black arrows in the image above indicate the raids the Muslims made.

And that Byzantine Emperor, was the third last Byzantine Emperor and much of his reign involved the Muslims laying siege to Constantinople for *years* at a time! This empire, which lasted 1147 years, fell to the Muslims in 1453, with their last Emperor, Constantine XI, dying in the very final battle….

As the city fell on May 29, 1453, Constantine is said to have remarked: “The city is fallen but I am alive”. Realising that the end had come, he reportedly discarded his purple cloak and led his remaining soldiers into a last charge where he was killed. According to the historian Sphrantzes, who doubted the truth of the story, the only way the Emperor was later identified was by his Imperial boots. His body was then decapitated and his head sent across Asia Minor to legitimize the victory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_XI#Fall_of_Constantinople

Posted 21 August, 2009 by manabrau in islame, Religion Sux Arse, T.A., T.E.A.M.S

top myspaz christian blogs helping the atheist cause…   Leave a comment


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in the top blogs on myspaz of late there has been a lot of slagging off at atheists … funny stuff, hilarious stuff actually…

if you do read any of those blogs from christians that get up into the top ten, you should realise something if u step back far enuf and think about it… hilarious

as an ex-christian (whatever that means) after reading these stupid blogs (and that’s being polite) I have come to realise that I made the RIGHT decision in rejecting religion, christianity in particular.. because there is no way I want to be having a label on me that is anything to do with these people. my skin crawls at the prospect, and I can’t see how any sane religious person could not *cringe* by reading these blogs.

so the reality is that if the religious don’t want to be put off their own religion, it’s probably *not* a good idea to read the top fundy christian blogs on myspaz.

if ppl who read those “looney” blogs agree with them – well – then they deserve the “hell” they are damning themselves to, ironic that the only way these people could be “saved” – is to give up and not believe at all.. seriously if there is a god and he’s Jesus, oh dear! i think it best to stop pissing him off.. I forget who it was but some comedian said something like “Jesus Christ is back! and he’s PISSED OFF!!”, i think it was Robin Williams.

if christians having doubts about christianity went and read one of those blogs, it’s more than likely that eventually they would be put off christianity by these supposed loving “christians” and their rants.

so I thank all those top christian bloggers on The Spaz – they do not even need to mention atheism, but they are promoting it, in fact, thanks to the internet, tens of millions of people potentially are going to see that rubbish and i find it doubtful that any atheist could do as much damage to religion as the religious bloggers who spout their mouths off on myspaz.

I expect a massive rise in atheism in the future, perhaps when the internet generation grow up.

The biggest killers of religion, are the religious, spreading the dissent against religion, on behalf of the atheists.

so it turns out that the christians are nice after all, they just have a weird way of showing their “love”, by killing their own religion for us. how quaint.

Posted 19 August, 2009 by manabrau in atheism, Religion Sux Arse

can an Evil Atheist understand biblical context? (religiorant/humour)   Leave a comment

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24/March/09

this was in response to a question to me in a christian’s blog about how does a non-believer know bible context? without even reading the bible I might add to that question… but I thought it a bit of a waste to just have it as a comment…. so… here’s some pre-amble first.

I *have* read the bible, I’m proud to inform you all that I nearly made it half way through genius, gensus, genus, genisous, heinous? .. Genesis! right up to about that bit where Noah did his crazy thing with that boat trick… from there it was… urr… no …

then I read the bit where Jesus was tempted by the devil in the desert or whatever it was… well at least I think I did, seeing how I was about 7/8/9yo (??) and all I remember of that, was that the bible I was reading was illustrated and had a very nice drawing/painting of Jesus and this red devil sort of character flying around… and well..

what was i saying? oh yes, then I read Revelations with the whole 6-6-6 yards and the Bark of the Meast, and well, then I was hooked on Rucifel!! Rucifel Natas, the great deceiver, that one dude that stood up to god…

Satan is my motor
–Cake

bahahaha… they should take the references to Satan in the bible OUT!! coz maybe, just *maybe*, everyone would then *FORGET* about him!! STOP DWELLING ON THE NEGATIVE, you IDJITS! oh what am i yelling for? The Rapture has been and gone, Blondie 1981… sheesh… missed it already, FOOLS

I wonder how many other evil ideas have ppl got out of the bible coz it said that was this and this was that because it was *EVIL*..

Imagine some innocent person who gets accosted by some religidiot bible bashing moron… ten minutes later that person is going to be “oh if it’s evil, I *got* to try it now.. I don’t want to be like that bible basher!! what’s that ”don’t be gay?”, I never thought to be *gay* before, i think i’ll try that first, then I’m going to have sex with animals, never had that idea before until the BIBLE told me not to have sex with animals! not sure I’m going to like the snake and lizard salad though, but I’ll try anything to be different to that bible thumpin’ moron!! – oh wait! what’s this? the bible says eating locusts and grasshoppers is OK??

Levitcus 11:21 Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon [all] four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth; Levitcus 11:22 [Even] these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind. 11:23 But all [other] flying creeping things, which have four feet, [shall be] an abomination unto you.
–King James V Bible

oh? right! context.. that’s what i was talking about… using the book of Locutus of Borg as an example, wait.. the book of Leviticus, I mean, this is the bible, not star trek… the bible just isn’t *that* cool…

btw! bahahahah @ Leviticus 11:23 for saying insects have FOUR legs… *bzzz* .. FAIL .. but I will concede that back then, that maybe insects just did happen to have four legs, I mean, it was a long time ago, surely evolution would explain the six legs insects have today, right?

oh right back to what i was saying, here’s the context in context, contextually, no less..

the way I see the context is this, how does Leviticus apply to me? …. why would *I* need to be told that all of those things are abominations? … I think a lot of believers are not asking *why* and *how* the bible applies to them in the here and now.. sure the bible has all this stuff about do this do that – but how does that apply to me today? Bible says “thou shalt not murder” ..I knew that already, simply because it’s not a nice thing to do, it’s not something you would do if you wanted to get along with people. same with coveting someone’s wife etc etc

just say i’m sitting around on the beach watching the waves and the clouds roll by, and some dude walks up and says “do u mind if i talk to you about the bible?” .. and i say “well, i’m bored so why not?” .. then this guy starts telling me all of these things that are abominations and “ye shall not enter the kingdom of god if blah” and other doom and gloom things, many of which would never even cross my mind in the first place, let alone go and do…..

so once he’s finished, I might say “why are you telling me this?” …

i’d imagine that he would say “because god doesn’t want you to be a sinner!” ..

“well, that’s fair enough, but what makes you think *I* need to be told these things?” ….

“so you can be saved and go to heaven” ….

“no, I mean why did you walk up to me and tell me all of these things out of the blue? i was just sitting here watching the clouds, I mean, I’m not wearing a hot pink jump suit, or a summer dress, so I’m obviously not a cross dresser (at least in public ;), and I’m not effeminate in my appearance, at least I thought I was reasonably manly looking with my goatee and rugged appearance, that and I don’t wear makeup of any kind….

I’m not wearing a necklace of eagle and osprey talons, nor do i have a gun or a spear at my side, so it’s not reasonable to assume I hunt birds of prey and eat them, in fact, most eagle species are protected around here because a lot of them are an endangered species, so it’s actually against the law to hunt them, i didn’t need you and your bible to tell me that either!!….

I’m sitting here on the beach I’m not in the water trying to catch me some whales and dolphins or jelly fish to go and eat I’m not back up their under the trees trying to catch a snake or a lizard for dinner either and as for lying with a man, not that it’s your business, but I’m straight….

So I ask you, why does god need me to know all this stuff if I’m not doing it right now and there is no evidence that I’ve ever done any of those things and that I’m probably never going to do any of those things anyway? I might also mention that I had never thought of being a cross dresser until you said it was an abomination, so if I do become a cross dresser, it was *you* that gave me the idea! ….

Leviticus chapter 11 sounds like some sort of “riot act” being read to teenage children whose parents who have just got home from a month long holiday only to discover that their entire house has been trashed by their ”trusted” children with parties and all sorts of lewd behaviour every day and every night with group sex orgies and drugs and killing random creatures that pass by for food when they were too lazy to leave the house and go down to the shop and buy food with the money their parents left from the shop the whole time while the parents were gone!! ……

also “why” are these things regarded as an ‘abomination’ in the first place? could it be that god doesn’t want us to kill eagles and owls and similar creatures, not because those creatures themselves are an abomination to eat, but because they don’t reproduce as quickly as other animals, could it be that god is telling you it’s an abomination to eat these creatures because there aren’t that many of them and that the ppl Leviticus was addressing were very close to wiping them all out? Especially since god gave us chickens and turkeys and cows and sheep and what not to raise and eat, so maybe they were just randomly eating any old creature that came by? …..

Maybe god said eating snakes and other creepy crawlies was because he wanted you to eat the creatures that have been designated as “food” for humans to eat? …..

Also, Could it be that god was telling those ppl that touching the carcasses of dead beasts was unclean because they carried disease? and the breaking of vessels (containers) that have dead things in them is always a good idea coz you wouldn’t want to be drinking out of a cup that had a dead rat in it, ever!! These are all practical, common sense things that I didn’t need to be told…..

Could it be that god didn’t want the ancients to eat camels, because that’s how they were supposed to get around to other villages to make trade with other ppl, to spread god’s word? ie. If they ate all the camels they’d have to lug around their stuff by themselves and would probably have to leave things behind as they were too heavy? It doesn’t make sense to eat your means for getting from one place to the next! …..

as for men lying with men as they would a woman, could it be that god was telling the intended audience of Leviticus to stop having “gay sex” because they were *all* or nearly all of them were doing it and that it was likely that had they continued, that they were going to become extinct because no-one was having children? Being ‘gay’ itself might not be the abomination, the abomination might just be that if every person was gay, then god’s creation would not be able to continue at all? It would certainly be an abomination to god if the human race died off I would imagine….

So it really does sound to me that Leviticus was supposed to be addressed to a people that were doing all manner of “savage” activities, so to single out one thing and call that an abomination all by itself doesn’t really lend any context as to the “why” Leviticus was written, because why would you tell people not to do all those things, if they were not already doing these “wrong” things? I would expect that Leviticus spoke to a ppl that were fornicators and adulterers and eagle eaters and snake eaters and homosexuals and beast lovers and all those other things that Leviticus goes on about, that these ppl didn’t just do one or two of these things, that they were doing *all* or most of them!”

The same goes for that bit in the bible that says women shouldn’t speak in church, I somewhere read that that was addressed to a people where all the women ever did in church was gossip and chat and carry on like heads with their chook cut off, so the old bags of one particular area were told to shut the fuck up in church… seems someone took that out of context and applied it to *every* woman on the planet! bzzz .. *FAIL*


Leviticus Chapter 11

Lev 11:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,

Lev 11:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These [are] the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that [are] on the earth.

Lev 11:3 Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, [and] cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.

Lev 11:4 Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: [as] the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he [is] unclean unto you.

Lev 11:5 And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he [is] unclean unto you.

Lev 11:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he [is] unclean unto you.

Lev 11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he [is] unclean to you.

Lev 11:8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they [are] unclean to you.

Lev 11:9 These shall ye eat of all that [are] in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.

Lev 11:10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which [is] in the waters, they [shall be] an abomination unto you:

Lev 11:11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.

Lev 11:12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that [shall be] an abomination unto you.

Lev 11:13 And these [are they which] ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they [are] an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,

Lev 11:14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;

Lev 11:15 Every raven after his kind;

Lev 11:16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,

Lev 11:17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,

Lev 11:18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,

Lev 11:19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

Lev 11:20 All fowls that creep, going upon [all] four, [shall be] an abomination unto you.

Lev 11:21 Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon [all] four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;

Lev 11:22 [Even] these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.

Lev 11:23 But all [other] flying creeping things, which have four feet, [shall be] an abomination unto you.

Lev 11:24 And for these ye shall be unclean: whosoever toucheth the carcase of them shall be unclean until the even.

Lev 11:25 And whosoever beareth [ought] of the carcase of them shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even.

Lev 11:26 [The carcases] of every beast which divideth the hoof, and [is] not clovenfooted, nor cheweth the cud, [are] unclean unto you: every one that toucheth them shall be unclean.

Lev 11:27 And whatsoever goeth upon his paws, among all manner of beasts that go on [all] four, those [are] unclean unto you: whoso toucheth their carcase shall be unclean until the even.

Lev 11:28 And he that beareth the carcase of them shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even: they [are] unclean unto you.

Lev 11:29 These also [shall be] unclean unto you among the creeping things that creep upon the earth; the weasel, and the mouse, and the tortoise after his kind,

Lev 11:30 And the ferret, and the chameleon, and the lizard, and the snail, and the mole.

Lev 11:31 These [are] unclean to you among all that creep: whosoever doth touch them, when they be dead, shall be unclean until the even.

Lev 11:32 And upon whatsoever [any] of them, when they are dead, doth fall, it shall be unclean; whether [it be] any vessel of wood, or raiment, or skin, or sack, whatsoever vessel [it be], wherein [any] work is done, it must be put into water, and it shall be unclean until the even; so it shall be cleansed.

Lev 11:33 And every earthen vessel, whereinto [any] of them falleth, whatsoever [is] in it shall be unclean; and ye shall break it.

Lev 11:34 Of all meat which may be eaten, [that] on which [such] water cometh shall be unclean: and all drink that may be drunk in every [such] vessel shall be unclean.

Lev 11:35 And every [thing] whereupon [any part] of their carcase falleth shall be unclean; [whether it be] oven, or ranges for pots, they shall be broken down: [for] they [are] unclean, and shall be unclean unto you.

Lev 11:36 Nevertheless a fountain or pit, [wherein there is] plenty of water, shall be clean: but that which toucheth their carcase shall be unclean.

Lev 11:37 And if [any part] of their carcase fall upon any sowing seed which is to be sown, it [shall be] clean.

Lev 11:38 But if [any] water be put upon the seed, and [any part] of their carcase fall thereon, it [shall be] unclean unto you.

Lev 11:39 And if any beast, of which ye may eat, die; he that toucheth the carcase thereof shall be unclean until the even.

Lev 11:40 And he that eateth of the carcase of it shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even: he also that beareth the carcase of it shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even.

Lev 11:41 And every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth [shall be] an abomination; it shall not be eaten.

Lev 11:42 Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon [all] four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye shall not eat; for they [are] an abomination.

Lev 11:43 Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing that creepeth, neither shall ye make yourselves unclean with them, that ye should be defiled thereby.

Lev 11:44 For I [am] the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I [am] holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Lev 11:45 For I [am] the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I [am] holy.

Lev 11:46 This [is] the law of the beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature that moveth in the waters, and of every creature that creepeth upon the earth:

Lev 11:47 To make a difference between the unclean and the clean, and between the beast that may be eaten and the beast that may not be eaten.

Blue Letter Bible. “Leviticus 11 – King James Version.” Blue Letter Bible. 1996-2009. 25 Mar 2009.
< http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Lev&c=11&t=KJV >



Posted 15 August, 2009 by manabrau in Religion Sux Arse

John Lennon’s "Imagine" is evil? (religiorant)   Leave a comment

Imagine is Evil?

26th/June/2009
every now and then i get real bored and go thru the top R&P blogs, I can sometimes make it to the end without finding any interesting sounding blogs, but one caught my eye recently…it was some christian fruit cake declaring that John Lennon’s “Imagine” was satanic and evil somehow because it advocated an anti religion stance, they denounced the song and John Lennon for being an atheist and declaring in that one particular line…

“and no religion too”

and they were saying were (“they” being the blogger and their commenters)

“see seee seeeee!!! this is what i mean!!!!?!?!?! and read this line!! SEE!! SEE WHAT I MEAN!?!?!?!?!?”

well maybe i exaggerate – but not that much – but that still doesn’t change the meaning of what this person was saying

the song, “Imagine” … John Lennon’s “Imagine”…

a song that talks about world peace and harmony between all humans on earth for all humans…

is …. wait for it … is somehow Satanic and Evill according to some moronic christians…

what can I say?

what the FUCK is the matter with some christians?

ps. I can’t find that blog now, *sigh*


Posted 15 August, 2009 by manabrau in Religion Sux Arse

Prescott Bush… and the Nazis…   Leave a comment

NAZIS
USA
WAR

mostly written 19/Feb/09, mostly…

Introduction

Prescott Bush… and the Nazis… , no it’s not a bad cover’s band.

Prescott Bush, father of George Bush Sr and grandfather to George Bush Jr. worked for a company that supplied materials to Nazi Germany. This would seem to be a fact. I’m yet to find anything denying this, so if you know otherwise, speak up.

There is *so* much material on this to read, but “steel” would seem to be a major part of the trade involved.

Get a coffee and Google this for your own research – don’t believe me

prescott bush treason steel

But regardless, it would also seem to be a fact that one of the largest banks in the USA, be it knowingly or not, was financing the company that Prescott Bush used to trade with the Nazis.

Make your own minds up as to what that means, make up your own conspiracy theories.

“And remember, where you have a concentration of power in a few hands, all too frequently men with the mentality of gangsters get control. History has proven that. All power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
–Lord Acton

Summary

Ex USA President G. W. Bush is guilty of violating international law by ordering the USA invasion Iraq is he not?? Isn’t that treason? perhaps, War crimes? Didn’t the reason for invading turn out to be a lie? Is that more treason, more war crimes? (yes the USA wasn’t the only country to invade)

Seems this treason thing runs in the family, as Prescott Bush, G. W. Bush’s grandfather, evidentially committed treason as well, by being a director of Union Banking Corp. which was supplying Nazi Germany with materials up until October 1942. Prescott Bush was a partner of Harriman & Co. A major lender to this company was Kuhn, Loeb & Co.

Kuhn, Loeb & Co. was established by Abraham Kuhn and Solomon Loeb in 1867. Under the leadership of senior partners Jacob Schiff, and later his son Mortimer, along with Otto Kahn and Felix Warburg, this firm became one of the most influential USA banking firms during the late 1800s and early 1900s. This company, via mergers and take overs through the last fifty years, now forms part of the company we know today as American Express.

Beating a dead Horse

“Why Prescott Bush, George Bush Sr’s father and Jr’s grandfather, was never tried for treason is one of the great unsolved mysteries of American history” [1]

In 1942, Prescott Bush was a director of a company named “Union Banking Corp.”..

E.H. Harriman was the company Prescott Bush (George Jr.’s grandfather), was working for when he funneled millions of dollars to Hitler. This connection has been documented by numerous writers including Anthony Sutton and John Loftus. [2]

The supposedly biggest lender for Harriman company was Kuhn, Loeb & Co. [3]

This company was run by Jacob H. Schiff up until 1920 [4]. Schiff is famous for the 1904/5 extension of a loan, via Kuhn-Loeb, of $200 million dollars to Japan (which consequently allowed Japan to win the Russo-Japanese war), which has been speculated was to avenge the Tsarist treatment of Jewish people.

This firm would also seem to be very influential.

When World War I finally did break out, he used his reputation and influence to urge President Woodrow Wilson and others, to put an end to the war as quickly as possible, even without an Allied victory. [4]

Whether the Kuhn, Loeb & Co. knowingly supplied backing for Harriman & Co with knowledge that their money was going to the establishment and furthering of the Nazi war machine is NOT apparent.

But as complete speculation, it would seem unlikely that Kuhn, Loeb & Co. were unaware that their money was going to Germany. As an example, Jacob Schiff, up until the end of Tsarist Russia in 1917, forbade his company (Kuhn, Loeb & Co) from trading with any Russian company because of how the Russian Tsars had treated the Jewish population in Russia.

Felix M. Warburg, Schiff’s son-in-law had this to say of the Tsarist persecution of the Jews of Eastern Europe …

“The successive blows of contending armies have all but broken the back of European Jewry, and have reduced to tragically unbelievable poverty, starvation and disease about 6,000,000 souls, or half the Jewish population of the earth.

The Jewish people throughout Eastern Europe, by sheer accident of geography, have suffered more from the war than any other element of the population.”
–Felix M. Warburg
[5]

So it would seem that the senior partners knew where the funds of their company were being directed. Jacob Schiff, removed this ban after the Communists took power in Russia away from the Tsars. I can only assume that the senior partners after Schiff died in 1920 were as involved in how the company’s money was invested.

Regardless, Prescott Bush committed treason via Union Banking Corp. with it’s trading relations to Nazi Germany, and he should have been tried as such.

Later Prescott Bush became a US senator, I wonder how many of his voters would still have voted for him had they known about his connections to Nazi Germany?

Make your own minds up.

I strongly urge everyone to make up their own minds, but know this, it was speculated that Barrack Obama had terrorist connections…

It was *speculated*…

So the very speculation of there being terrorist connections to Obama had ppl calling him all manner of bullshit but George W Bush and George Bush Sr *were* USA presidents, and yet their father/grandfather evidentially *WAS* involved in funding the Nazis and as far as I can tell, no-one has bat an eyelid over this. Prescott Bush would seem to be a Nazi collaborator… Doesn’t the Bush family have current connections to the Bin Laden family as well? *sigh*

and yet…

what was all the stink about Obama *possibly* having terrorist connections, when G. W. Bush *is* a direct descendant of someone who was supplying the Nazis? That was no accident, the USA had a Trading with the enemy act since 1917.

Union Banking was seized by the government in October 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act [6]

“On December 13, 1941, six days after the attack at Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt signed the ‘Trading With the Enemy Act’. This act banned business dealings with the enemies of the US. Prescott Bush ignored this and continued to do business with the Nazis… [7]

Apparently the US government was too busy fighting the war (WW2) to be able to find the time to be able to deal with individuals and companies that were supplying Nazi Germany. Didn’t have time after the war either hey?

No charges were brought against Union Banking’s American directors. The federal government was too busy trying to fight the war, said Donald Goldstein, a professor of public and international affairs at the University of Pittsburgh.

“We did not have the resources to do these things,” Goldstein said. [6]

Make up your own minds, and do your own research, but I’ve read no articles saying the whole Prescott Bush treason thing is bullshit, in fact, the more digging, the more dirt that is found…

These are the facts, I’m still working on a conspiracy theory that makes sense.

So what do *you* make of this? What’s your conspiracy theory?


[1] http://houston.craigslist.org/pol/1003130011.html

[2] http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50209&page=9

[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuhn,_Loeb_&_Co.

[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_H._Schiff

[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_M._Warburg

[6] http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html

[7] http://archive.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Prescott%20Bush

more links

http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/timeline.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_with_the_Enemy_Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dalberg-Acton,_1st_Baron_Acton#Famous_sayings_of_Lord_Acton

“The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks.”
–Lord Acton


Posted 11 August, 2009 by manabrau in bush, germany, Religion Sux Arse, usa, war

If atheists had no morals…. (religiorant)   Leave a comment

If atheists had no morals….


we often hear christchumps bitch about the “atheist atrocities” of the last hundred years, for example, Stalin’s atheism and China’s communist atheistic nature and the eternal anti-favourite, Hitler’s atheist evolution believing arse, are all responsible for horrendous atrocities, tens of millions people slaughtered at the hands of these few regimes…

but – just what did atheism have to do with any of that?

And “no”, Hitler was not an atheist, but even if he had views that were atheistic, what exactly did they have to do with the millions killed?

“oh but Hitler believed the theory of natural selection?”

urrr, and so what?

Lots of ppl accept the theory of natural selection, myself included, and I would bet that most of us were not involved in any genocides. So, where exactly is the similarity, or even a link between killing millions and “natural selection”? Has there been a study that links “natural selection” to genocide?

And even if natural selection *was* the reason touted for Hitler slaughtering millions, then that was a choice Hitler made himself. It wasn’t as if all the ppl who accept “natural selection” in the world got together and elected Hitler to go on a killing spree, in the name of “natural selection”.

Did they? Did the Council of Natural Selectarians and the Associates of Natural Seletionistism commission Hitler to wage war to thin out the ethnic minorities?

and besides that, what does “natural selection” have to do with atheism *anyway*, seeing how many religious people also accept natural selection/evolution?

Perhaps the notion of “only the strong will survive” is the message that people extract from Hitler’s running amok killing ethnic minorities? *Again* – where is it written or even implied that atheism means you support the notion that “only the strong will survive?”

((Do you see a pattern?))

Just because a whole bunch of people agree with the science of evolution, it doesn’t mean that all those people are Hitlers.. seriously, grow the fuck up if that’s what you religious idiots think.

and did Stalin starve people to death for atheistic reasons? If he did, just *what* was that purpose(s)?

How can there be an “atheistic” reason in the first place, atheism has no doctrines, no prayers, no affirmations, no rituals, no churches, no holidays, no rules, no book, no guide, no morals, no yadda yadda yadda???

So, just how did being an atheist inspire Stalin to let people starve by the millions, if indeed he was an atheist that is?

well?? where does it say Stalin did such and such because he was an atheist or he did such and such because he didn’t believe in god? where *exactly* does it say that?

it doesn’t say that anywhere, does it?

So the religious fruit cakes *know* atheists have morals, but they deliberately choose to sustain the notion that atheists don’t have morals at all by comparing atheists to the handful of leaders that were responsible for millions of deaths because they supposedly had atheistic views. Make a bit of a leap much?

It’s also rather dishonest to make a blatant assumption about someone you don’t even know by labelling them as being some sort of savage beast operating purely on instinct. thou shalt not bear false witness much? judge not lest yea be judged thyself much? do unto others as you would have them do unto you much as well?

It’s especially hypocritical when, say, the Crusades are mentioned. Those slaughters *were* done in the name of Christ. “Oh but that was the Catholics…” is the top lame excuse for christians washing their hands of that atrocity. Did the Catholics have a different Jesus back then? a different bible?

The fact of the matter is that lunatic, George Bush, called the Iraqi war a “Crusade”, and I’m thinking more ppl have died in this latest Crusade than all the previous ones combined. I wonder if the ancient Crusades were instigated by leaders telling their people that the Muslims had weapons of mass destruction back then as well?

No.. Christians do NOT get to wash their hands of responsibility for the Crusades as there is one going on right *now*. Sarah Palin called the Iraqi war a mission for god or something like that, and both Palin and Bush seem to be wildly popular with at least the USA religious fruit cakes who adamantly wash their hands of the Crusades.

So, *clearly*, having christianity or any religion in general has NOTHING to do with being a MORAL person. Killing in the name of your god is never a moral thing, *never*.

But christians know all of this, the just go lah lah lah lah lah not listening to you, when these things are mentioned.

But even if the Crusades do not have anything to do with the christians today, then what’s with the audacity of saying that the actions of these alleged atheists of the past have anything to do with the atheists of today anyway??

Hypocrite much?

Seems to me there’s a lot of whining on the part of christian fanatics when they do exactly the same thing. eg. who the fuck do they think they are when it’s OK for them to point the finger at alleged atheists, the Hitlers and the Stalins of the past, but then they wash their hands of past christian atrocities which have been (and still are) ongoing for millennia, as opposed to this alleged atheistic genocides of the past hundred or so years?

The religious clearly know atheists have morals because if people with atheistic views didn’t have morals at all – as so commonly implied on the circus that is myspaz by self righteous people claiming to be christian warriors (it’s DARK SIDED!!!) and soldiers and hookers for christ.

If atheists had no morals, wouldn’t there be a lot more ppl having been put to death by the nasty atheists?? If atheists had no morals, they would all be locked up and/or executed, and the religious out there know this, because if that was the case you’d be roaming the streets in mobs with burning torches looking to lynch the nearest devil worshipper or person that doesn’t agree with your particular god fantasy.

There *are* countries like that, maybe you religious fantastics should move there?

If atheists had no morals they would be classified as a separate race seeing how they would roam the streets in packs and live off the flesh of the weak and vulnerable in the very mobs that are trying to lynch them. So given that atheists don’t roam the streets in packs, it would be safe to say that atheists *do* have morals – they just don’t get them from atheism! at this point I would like to say,

“Grow the fuck up if you think atheists have no morals!”

so – exactly – which part of the absence of belief in religious and godly stuff – **EXACTLY** – is to blame for the genocidal fruit cakes over the last hundred years or so that seem to have had this label put on them called “atheist” because they showed one tiny trait out of many that may have implied that they were atheists?

well?

atheism has no morals attached to it, but that doesn’t make atheists immoral, atheists get their morals from interaction with the world. You know, by experiencing the world, talking, and more importantly, listening to other people’s points of view instead of demanding that everyone else comply with your particular religiodiculous set of rules from a time when people really did need to be told how to behave.

Maybe that’s how the religiously endowed ppl can justify their violence? “Oh it’s OK! relax! I’m allowed to attack you, I’m with Jesus!”

And you know, many religious ppl seem to have some quite questionable and even outright disgusting “morals”, so having “religion” has nothing to do with being a moral person in the first place.

There are *MANY* stories in the news of late where people are, for instance, letting their kids get sick and die because they think god will make them better, and if god doesn’t make them better, then that’s OK too, coz it’s what god wanted. What about the guy who kept the corpse of some old woman in a toilet coz he thought god would bring her back to life?

Atheism has *nothing* attached to it what-so-ever, it is defined (or is that undefined?) by there being a *lack* of attachments, but if there is anything that would seem to be attached to atheism, it’s people’s misconceptions, assumptions, and misinformed opinions.

The stout religious person would insist that atheists have no morals at all, but they *know* that’s not true, and yet they still say atheists are immoral.

Has anyone actually blown up a building in the name of atheism like the christian abortion clinic bombers do? Has anybody ever hijacked a plane claiming it in the name of atheism like Islamic terrorists have been known to do? has anyone invaded a country and slaughtered whole cities of people in the name of atheism like the christians did during the crusades?? Has anyone ever kept the corpse of a dead woman locked up in a toilet because they thought having a lack of belief would be rewarded by the woman being revived?

well, have they?

Posted 11 August, 2009 by manabrau in atheism, Religion Sux Arse, T.A.