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what makes you an atheist? (part 1)   Leave a comment

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what makes you an atheist?

a rather long bunch of personal thoughts of what makes an atheist, just a plain atheist, and not an evil atheist (this time)…

i always thought that “atheism” meant the complete lack of any belief in, or in any relation to, any religion, or any god, whatsoever. simple. right? maybe not, as I have noticed that a lot of people seem to think of atheism as some sort of substitute for a religion, that it somehow implies that you accept evolution and all the sciences without question and that you’ve read every book by that Dick Dawkins guy.

If that’s the case, then I’m a terrible atheist for merely having merely a basic understanding of evolution and the sciences, in fact, I’d be much like a christian that never read the bible or went to church. And as for Dick Dawkins and other warriors for atheism, I would have never heard of any of them if i didn’t stumble upon the myspaz religion and philosophy circus two years ago and having been exposed to the sheer volume of noise about them, I have ended up absorbing some of their stuff by osmosis.

But then again, I know more about religion than I do about atheism (what exactly do u need to know about atheism again?) so I am *not* so unaware of people’s religions that I am under the impression that Joan of Ark was Noah’s wife. yes, that’s right, there are christians who believe that Joan of Ark, is the wife of Noah. In fact, I even think where I read this they even got the “Noah” bit wrong, as they referred to him as … Moses…

I think the problem here is that the religious mob are, mistakenly, referring to atheism as a belief system, it is nothing of the sort, but the atheist crowd are letting that mistake happen, so much so that atheists are even playing into this stereotype that has been created.

Atheism to me, is the complete absence of acceptance OR denial of all religions and their various and sundry deities. I state that I neither concur with both sides of the argument as to outright declare that there is no god at all, is almost as arrogant as declaring that there must be a god, sarcastic almost.

Taking an absolute position about god, “yay” or “nay”, is to claim absolute knowledge of the surety of some being that by all rights is completely beyond our comprehension anyway. I think that to have knowledge of god, any knowledge, is to pretend to be bit god-like yourself. I firmly believe that you just can’t know either way.

My technical position on god is this, the judeo-christiatio-islameo god, is extremely unlikely, and if it really is *the* god, then I choose to not accept it as being worthy of worship. As for other gods, I don’t really know enough about them to acknowledge their existence or reject them outright as being unworthy, but i’m pretty sure that they will all have some petty characteristic that is far more human-like than god-like that would make me question their “god” status.

If there really is a god, it’s a safe bet we’ve all got it wrong somehow, so in fact, would not choosing a “religion” actually be the safest thing to do if you really are worried about your immortal soul? then you can just say “hey look big guy, none of those religions made any actual sense, and I choose to not follow anything that does not make sense. That’s what the brain was for right?”

The easiest way to follow the first commandment, “thou shalt not have any gods before me”, is to not follow *any* god or even have a position on god at all, this way you remove the extremely likely possibility that you are worshipping a false god! Don’t want to break that first commandment now do we?

I like to think of atheism in much the same way as you or I would think about the concept of “me” – you are always “me” from your point of view, and I am always “me” from my point. But you just don’t think about yourself as the plain old being of “me” very much do you? it’s always “I am something” or “I want something” or “I need something”.

Every thing else that gives us definition, all the “I ams” and “I wants” etc, are added later on to this “me” character that you are. The clothes you wear (I wear..), the ppl u associate with (I am friends with), the religion you follow (I believe..) … it’s ALL added, and most of it is given so early on that it seems to be all that you know, indoctrination.

but you don’t add anything to your character that makes u an atheist, do you?

So you don’t technically become an atheist, you un-believe the religious brain washing, you have to stop being so Islame, you have to un-Jayzus your thinking, you gotta suppress thoughts about the hannuka draydel, you let those notions of your particular god and religion go. Then when you have thrown away all the religion and all the god stuff, you are merely left with your *natural* state, an atheist.

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Posted 25 July, 2009 by manabrau in atheism, Religion Sux Arse, T.A.

How Shall I Respond? by David Yanez   Leave a comment


How Shall I Respond?

How shall I respond if you ask me,
What are you?
Do you believe in God?
If not, What do you believe in?
Don’t you believe in anything?
Shall I make a list and carry it around
Lest you judge me for not having any beliefs?
“Judge not, that ye be not judged”
I wonder who said that?
Oh yeah, It was the same guy who judged
Those who didn’t like his preaching and said:
“Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers,
How can ye escape the damnation of hell.”
How civilized. How tolerant.
What a gentleman.
I shall respond civilized.
I shall respond with tolerance.
I shall rise above the fear, which controls you,
The fear, which holds you prisoner and,
I shall proudly say:
I am a Humanist, a Free Thinker
A Naturalist, a Skeptic
A Secularist, a Scientist at heart,
An Agnostic, a Nontheist
A Rationalist, an Empiricist, and a Positivist.
And Last I am an Atheist.
“For I am a destroyer of Gods
In a world of Demons,
A giver of hope to those who know not,
For I am Human,
And Humane is what I long to be”.
I believe in life before death.
I believe this is the only life we will ever have.
I believe we can do in life what we could never do in death.
I believe in love, compassion, justice, equality,
Forgiveness, and freedom for all.
Did I mention I believe in social, economic, and racial equality?
I believe in your right to believe, and say what you wish.
I believe in not saying that which will cause
Physical and mental suffering to others.
I believe that no human is collateral when seeking justice.
I believe that those in power should be
Held accountable for the deliberate deaths of the innocent.
No life is expendable, No life at all.
I believe war is a crime if it can be avoided.
I believe the innocent should be defended
From their oppressors through shared international law.
Did I say I believe in justice?
I believe I don’t know the answers, but neither do you.
Most of all I believe in hope,
That someday humankind can live in peace.
And accept his place within nature
And put aside his selfish needs
For those who suffer,
For those that are disabled
For those with no voice,
For those less fortunate
And for all the creatures that can co-exist with us.
I’ve contemplated the big picture since I was a child,
And know in my heart
There is no God,
Which by definition makes me an Atheist,
But as you can see,
I’m a whole lot more!

Written by David Yanez


http://www.thejesusmyth.com/how-shall-i-respond.htm

Posted 20 July, 2009 by manabrau in Religion Sux Arse, T.A.

Who cares if god exists? (religio-rant)   Leave a comment

RELIGIO-RANT

“oh no” you’re saying, “another god blog”, it’s like an obsession for me, but I’ve found that it was necessary to do all of this to scrub the catholic fear of god out of me, but ask yourself this…

what is the difference if there is a god or not?

a) there is a god: you live your life as best as you can, treat ppl how you want them to treat you
b) there is no god: you live your life as best as you can, treat ppl how you want them to treat you

there’s a bible for *everyone*… and there can be a hymn section in the back with just this little diddy

Do what you do do well boy,
do what you do do well
give your love and all of your heart,
and do what you do do well

keep singing that one in your mind over and over

Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.
–Marcus Aurelius

the last of the good emperors of Rome was really onto something there….

this is the point i am at, god does not matter, how much more should I have done? ate some crackers? drank some wine? said “Jesus is my lord”? said a prayer to a god that hasn’t shown hide nor hair in millennia? denounce Satan? The only way I could be better is to give away my possessions, but in a selfish world that would leave me with nothing at all and I’d be out on the street begging.

But why do religious ppl need to source their morals from the ether? Religious people scare the FRAK out of me when they say shit like their lives only have meaning because of how they worship their lord, I’m like…

“Fucking what? You can not be a good person without Jesus in your heart? what dar faarkk???… Well you just keep on reading that bible of yours sonny jim because if you don’t, then stay the fuck away from me because you are barely sane as it is!!”

Is this why they don’t want science to keep knocking god down a notch on the fantastic scale by figuring out the universe? Is god/jesus the only thing keeping the entire christian population from running amok?

Imagine that woman, the DARK SIDED screamer, you know the one I’m talking about,

she’s dark sided alright! consumed she is! if she didn’t have Jesus in her heart I swear should turn into a demon something like that frikking Balrog monster underneath Khazad-Dum in the Lord of the Rings

and would the world be fucked up with that thing running around without Jesus keeping that thing in line or what?

but of course they are lying when they say things like this, aren’t they?… Can’t be good without Jesus? what a load of crock, because we all know people can be good people without having a Jesus label pinned to their hearts, or any label for that matter.. I’ve no doubt that dark sided woman would be totally different if she didn’t have a Jesus psychosis…

the religious fruitcake types just can’t admit to themselves that they *can* be good without a god, they don’t have the courage, they fear the unknown…

Fear is the path to the Dark Side
–Yoda

the unknown is exciting, and no, it’s not always safe, but to fear the unknown is to deny human nature of being curious… we should all be calling ourselves “Earthlings”, we should be digging up the asteroid belt right now with our remote controlled robots sending back iron ore, water, and whatever else we find out there.. Star Trek is set in the 2300s, at the rate we are going, it’ll be the 23000s before we get off this rock…

There’s a star man waiting in the sky,
he’d like to come and meet us
but he thinks he’ll blow our minds

–David Bowie


Posted 20 July, 2009 by manabrau in Religion Sux Arse

Satan died on the cross for your sins… (religiohumour)   Leave a comment

HUMOUR
RELIGIORANT

Did Satan die on the cross?

Why are christians *so* sure that this Jesus dude they have chosen to worship, isn’t Satan himself?

After all.. the fundies keep saying that Satan is the great deceiver… they keep saying Satan apparently is *still* down here leading us all astray.. and yet when confronted with this possibility that Jesus is Satan, the fundy suddenly says “but the bible is *true*!!” .. “I’ve read the bible so it must be true” is something I’ve read as a “reason” for the bible to be true. Because they read it, held it in their hands, and read it, so it’s real. it *must* be true.

i mean sure the general gist of what the bible was supposed to be about is probably still there but ppl take half lines of the bible literally to justify their bigotry – it *must* be true – so who is to say that Satan didn’t pretend to be this Jesus guy and die on the cross to gain “sympathy for the devil” by pretending to be… the messiah?

And to piss god off even more, Satan showed god that he could be a better and kinder “god” giving an even better way for god’s creatures to live. ie. “do unto others” as opposed to “an eye for an eye” …

Have a think about this, the god of the old testament is a brutal, vengeful and jealous being, right?

Most christians, if not all, will claim their god of the old testament to be perfect, so what’s with the back flip with Jesus and christianity?

The old testament god is the Jewish god right? And yet, that didn’t work out very well did it, because god then had to send this Jesus guy along. But what perfect god would not give us the right religion in the first place? If this god was perfect we’d all be Jewish, right?

The old testament god, would seem to be a bit more like… Allah.. what do you think?

so what happened between the old testament god and the apparent resurrection of the old testament god with the rise of Islame?

Jesus…

and doesn’t Jesus just seem to be such a massive departure from “an eye for an eye”, and things like stoning people to death for committing adultery? Sounds way out of character for a “perfect” being, as that’s what a perfect god is supposed to be, it’s perfect the way it is, it doesn’t change, it doesn’t need to change it’s ways, it’s perfect already.

So given a “perfect” god, there wasn’t really any need for a “perfect” god to send his son Jesus was there?

It’s Lucifer!

Lucifer was the “most perfect” of the angels, but god didn’t like that Lucifer was so handsome, (stupid god for making him that way, hey?) so god sends Lucifer to go and watch over the earth and it’s people with a third of the angels so god doesn’t have to look at his cherub face.

but perhaps while watching over us, Lucifer became attached to us people down here, and voiced his opinion that these humans were not so bad as to deserve being wiped out in the flood except for the handful few that still believed in the brutal god.

Maybe when Lucifer attacked heaven the first time he was attempting to stop god from sending another flood or similar disaster to wipe us all out again and was cast out to then become “Satan”?

was Satan the first being to consciously reject god because god was treating his creation like we were some sort of experiment or amusement?

did Satan fuck up god’s plan by playing the part of Jesus Christ? did he “lead us astray” from the brutal god of the old testament that seems to be very much alive within Islam.

Posted 20 July, 2009 by manabrau in humour, jesus, Religion Sux Arse, satan, T.A.

do we need to believe in god?   Leave a comment

RELIGION-SUX-ARSE

do we need to believe in god?

when i say “god” in this context, i mean like a religious god like Admiral “Allah” Ackbar, Jewhova or Cheezuz…

but are we finally leaving these traditions of the anachronistic and outdated biblical past, *in* the past and moving forward? or will we perpetually have progress retarded by these religious morons forever?

These basic traditions of right and wrong were laid down centuries, even millennia ago, when things were more easily defined as black or white, right or wrong, and i’m not saying abandon those teachings completely, but we’re a lot smarter than that these days, thanks to technology and understanding, we *can* safely change the course of our lives and extend them or make them tolerable and in some cases fix our problems completely.

but why is it that people need to believe in god, is it to make sure that the sun rises each day? because that’s pretty much one of the few things that is ultimately out of our control, at least for the moment.

is it really that thing called “gravity” keeping you in place on the surface of the earth? instead of being flung off into oblivion even though we are hurtling through space at thousands of kms an hour?

is gravity the believers’ reward for being a good person? like if we sin too much, will god disable gravity and fling us off into space?

maybe the idea of god looking over most people’s shoulders at all times is the only thing keeping the religidiots from being the brutal savages they too often accuse non-believers of being?

mostly written 27/feb/07, mostly…


Posted 19 July, 2009 by manabrau in Religion Sux Arse

Those are the words that’ll infect your soul (Carlinism)   Leave a comment

HUMOUR

There are 400,000 words in the English language…


“There are 400,000 words in the English language, and there are seven you can’t say on television. What a ratio that is! 399,993 . . . to seven. They must really be baaaad. They must be OUTRAGEOUS to be separated from a group that large. ‘All of you words over here, you seven . . . baaaad words.’ That’s what they told us, right? ‘That’s a bad word!’ Awwww. No bad words. Bad thoughts. Bad intentions, and wooooords. You know the seven, don’t ya? That you can’t say on TV? Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker and tits. Huh? Those are the heavy seven. Those are the words that’ll infect your soul, curve your spine, and keep the country from winning the war. Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker and tits, wow! And tits doesn’t even belong on the list! It seems like such a friendly word. Sounds like a nickname. ‘Hey Tits, come here man! Tits! Meet my friend Toots. Toots, Tits. Tits, Toots.’ Sounds like a snack . . . oh yeah, it is. Right. But I don’t mean your sexist snack, I mean new Nabisco Tits. Corn Tits n’ Sesame Tits n’ Cheese Tits . . . Tater Tits. Bet you can’t eat just one!”
–George Carlin
http://www.alternativereel.com/ includes/top-ten/display_review.php?id=00106

Posted 15 July, 2009 by manabrau in Carlinism

What kind of Atheist are you?   Leave a comment

QUIZ

but i’m not an atheist! I’m not not not not not not not not not.. LOL!


Posted 14 July, 2009 by manabrau in quiz