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maybe religion is a *good* thing AFTER ALL???.. (religiorant)   Leave a comment


has any one else stopped to think that, on a long shot, that if aliens have stopped by that any contact that they make is purely accidental? eg. interstellar prankster college kids with their drunken escapades, hopefully they have a designated pilot for the jump through hyperspace, wouldn’t want them to plough right into earth and have a hyperspace exit point open up and vaporise a continent now do we?

so if aliens *have* stopped by and have seen what we have been up to, it’s highly like that they do *NOT* want us to have advanced technology and be out there in the larger community that is the galaxy…

think about that one!

look how we act towards *each* other over things that don’t ACTUALLY matter one little FUCKING BIT in the here and now! *some* of you just can’t get past the “my god is better than your god” bullshit, can you? … *sigh*

it’s more than likely that if any aliens were stopping by – assuming they are civilised in a Star Trek Federation sort of style – that they have taken special note of all the wars on earth and for that reason *alone* they haven’t made official contact, because obviously we aren’t ready.

and why not believe that there are advanced civilisations out there? the milky way is apparently at least twice the age of our solar system, so it’s entirely possible that we’re a “late bloomer”

so if there were a “league of planets” out there in the galaxy it is more than likely that they are very civilised and that Earth is to be avoided as no one in this “league of planets” *wants* us to leave the planet if we’re going to shove religion down the throats of the galaxy!!

maybe religion is BANNED out there because of all the obvious segregation and the time wasting it causes over things that don’t even exist in this realm.

Religion has put us a thousand years behind in the advancement of technology – oh – thanks a fucking lot for that one christians – well fucking done with your dark ages suppression of science – well done idiots ….

if it wasn’t for the dark ages we *would* be out there in the galaxy – i’d say we would have at least made it to alpha centauri by now – so thanks a fucking lot – there would be no cancer – thanks a fucking lot – we would all live beyond 100 years old – thanks a fucking lot Mr Religidiot … thanks a fucking lot for a thousand years of stifling the sciences – thanks a fucking lot – let me thank each and every christian since frikking Jesus himself for that one

if the religious can’t get along with heathen or godless or ethnic or otherwise labelled minorities of their society on *this* world, it’s highly likely that aliens have seen this and are quite happy that we haven’t wandered very far from our planet much at all yet.

fucking nearly two thousand years and christians still don’t even get along between their own sects of christianity – hello!!! – don’t you think it’s time to throw in the towel and call it quits coz NONE of you have got it right – the ones that do have christianity right – refuse to calls themselves christian!!

maybe these aliens stop by to work out the latest frikking odds as to when planet earth will grow up? maybe we’re the laughing stock of the galaxy, maybe we actually are the rest of the galaxy’s amusement, all because some of us think that they *know* god…

or maybe, just maybe, god put this religion thing on earth so that when we were finally grown up enough to put that religious bullshit with it’s intangible and irrelevant differences aside, we would then earn the right to get out into the rest of the galaxy?

hahah… maybe Jesus won’t return until christianity is gone? christianity didn’t exist until LONG after Jesus was gone.. maybe *that* was the test, when we finally stopped believing in something that isn’t really there except in some emotional form, then we would be ready to get out there in the galaxy? seems we were nearly at that point two thousand years ago with the Greeks and Romans …

if we discover interstellar space travel tomorrow, it’s likely that aliens would invade and confiscate the technology..

perhaps it’s a directive of this “league of planets” that earth is not to have interstellar travel until religion and superstitious values are clearly the minority and that most of the people on earth are rational enough and in great enough number to quash any return to the dark ages that the religious seem to be begging for every fucking day ?

well? when are you going to stop believing in somebody else’s god? when are you going to start believing in yourselves and the people around you? because if we all get along with the people beside us, the next lot of people will get along with the people beside them and so on and so forth all around the world instead of this stupid fucked up bullshit segregation that religion creates?

well, when are you going to FUCKING grow up?

Posted 28 December, 2008 by manabrau in aliens, Religion Sux Arse

god did it! what can we say but… (religiorant)   Leave a comment

“god did it!” hey? well, I say this….

borrrriiinnngggg…

saying “god did it” breeds intellectual laziness and that leads to apathy on a massive scale..

if you start being lazy and start claiming that god did anything, then you are on a path to being apathetic towards *everything* in the universe

imagine all the great minds that didn’t look through a telescope or a microscope or see some creature and wonder how the hell that came to be, because they had their natural human curiosity quashed by fabulous tales (is that where ‘fable’ comes from? LOL!) of an old dude in the sky, who made everything, who knows everything and will be around until even beyond the end of the time itself..

and that’s what religion does, it trains the mind to not question the universe about you.. oh i wonder how…. “nope, god did it” – oh then i wonder where… “no god did it” – oh then why did… “no no no god did it, god did it, god did it” …

i hope every body gets frikking +A with frikking honours for their Creationist subjects at high school…. imagine *that* multiple choice exam? imagine *that* essay for your final grade in that class?

in all seriousness we’d be digging up the asteroid belt or we’d have automated robots doing it for us by now if it wasn’t for religion, how much time has the world wasted due to faith related suppression of moving forward?

how many great minds didn’t bother to flourish, how many ideas were never brought into the light because religion insisted that “god did it” and that to question otherwise is blasphemy?

extreme religious views deny the human nature of curiosity and that is denying part of humanity itself, religion, makes you *less* human in spite of what those nut cases and their extremists views would have the rest of the world believe, especially those who claim moral superiority, while summarily excluding those who have different views on life.

That’s not moral superiority, that’s moral *inferiority*

No person can selfishly claim that their morals are more valid than everyone else’s: who died and made you and/or your religion the moral compass for all humanity? and it was *not* Jesus! Your god did not command you to be judgemental – in fact Jesus said to do the opposite, and making judgements means that *you* are defining an absolute parameter as to your moral superiority and we all know that …

“Only the Sith deal in absolutes”
–Obi-Wan

It’s our differences, that bring us together that will make us stronger as a species, that is what separates us from the animals, we are creative and *can* get along with everybody, but only if we so choose to do so.

But religion works against this, as it magnifies the fear of the unknown, it preys on the fear of death: on the fear of what can’t be controlled, it teaches you to be bigoted because that’s how religion works – it spreads *fear*

“fear is the path to the Dark Side, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering…”
–Yoda

Much suffering has indeed been brought about by religion….

how can people say that religion had nothing to do with all the wars and crappy attitudes to their “fellow” human? it sets people apart in one unique way, that their supreme being is better than the next person’s supreme being, neither of which have been seen in the last two thousand years, except by guys who had probably been lost in the desert for weeks and had started to hallucinate, seriously! don’t these biblical stories all sound like these people were on acid?

religion excludes and sets us apart from those who are different, all the while screaming at us that it promotes togetherness, in much the same way that someone says some sort of mantra when they beat someone whilst telling themselves that the person they are beating, deserve it, it’s not my fault they were bad, thump, whack, crack, thud… it’s not my fault, they are sinners, they shouldn’t have made me beat you, bam, whack, thud, it’s not my fault they can’t follow god like I do.. whack bam thud, whack bam thud, wack bam thud thump wack bang thump, thud…

religion sux arse, poison it is

Posted 20 December, 2008 by manabrau in morality, Religion Sux Arse

god V the big rock.. (religiohumour)   Leave a comment


“Can god create a rock that is so big that he couldn’t lift it?”

is that the sort of thing you would ask of a god, because …. well, this is a fucking stupid challenge for god….. but let’s insult our intelligence and belittle our gods…

* firstly, but perhaps not so obviously, how would you present this challenge to god? have you got god’s cell phone number? because that prayer thing doesn’t seem to be very reliable

actually i could stop there… but i am not, and:

* why would god submit to such a petty challenge in the first place?

* why would god make a rock so big that god couldn’t move it? isn’t that a bit like making the world’s biggest boat, but then not being able to launch it because you built the fucker too far inland? or the boat is so big that no ocean can hold it … ie what’s the point other than to beckon to the whims of this feeble humans’ challenge?

* how could making a rock in the first place, be more difficult than moving said rock?

I assume this god is going to make this rock in an instant out of nothing. If god can frikking do that, then god can *also* frikking move that frikking rock with the same frikking magic that frikking created the frikking rock in the first frikking place. after all it *is* god, god can do anything, remember?

* this is my favourite stupid bit about this: in order to attempt to lift this rock, the surface that god would have to stand on would require way more mass than the rock being lifted in order for the ground that god is standing on to stay still while he lifted the rock, if he could lift it, that is.

therefore not only does god have to create a rock so big that potentially god couldn’t move it, but god would also have to create a suitably sized planet to stand on to be able to lift this rock in the first place.

most planets are at least a trillion times bigger than most rocks.

earth is 5.9742 × 10 to the power of 24 kilograms or 5,974,200,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilograms .. so a rock that is a 1,000 kilos, is a billion trillion times less massive than the rest of the earth, or there about!

so this “too big” rock that god made, in order to be lifted, would also require a suitably sized solid surface planet with sufficient mass for god to stand upon. This planet would probably need to be at least a few billion times more massive than the rock so that god can stand on something to attempt to lift this rock that was too big in the first place…. right?

* what limit is there to god, none? so if god is limitless how can the actual term “big” be used at all? how big is infinity? it’s infinite. how big is big? it’s *big* etc etc

* one of the “solutions” I’ve heard is that if god created a rock so big that he couldn’t lift it, he would move the universe such that the rock did move in relation to the rest of the universe…. anyone see the flawed logic in that?

in order for the rock to be in that universe, the universe would have to be bigger than the rock, so how could god not move the rock that he created that was too big and yet could still move the universe around it?

sure it would be less massive but it would be a lot trickier to move all the separate bits of the universe simultaneously than to move the rock itself wouldn’t it?

* so this rock has more mass than the entire universe? if so, the gravity of a rock that big would suck the whole universe into it wouldn’t it?

* oh yeah, and a rock the size of the universe, would collapse under it’s *own* gravity, maybe that’s what the big bang was, god was tricked into creating a rock so big that it collapsed in on itself in a super massive explosion, maybe that’s why Satan got kicked out of heaven, for playing a prank on god?

“I’m sorry Mrs Satan, but we just can’t continue to condone the behaviour of your son, Lucifer, in heaven any more. he has been expelled for being a disrupting influence on urr, uhmm, whatever it is that we do in heaven all the time.”

* if god is infinite, and he created a rock so big he couldn’t lift it and somehow it didn’t collapse in on itself, could god just expand himself to become big enough to then lift that rock that he couldn’t lift before, right? …

think outside the fucking box, the question itself is flawed


and don’t tell me it’s just an analogy designed to make a point, the *point* itself is flawed as well, as the challenge is a bullshit one in the first place

try to think of a better analogy, I challenge my readers to think of a challenge worthy of god, I can only think of one such conundrum, which seems to have slipped my mind at the moment.

the point, as cryptic as it is, is that you can’t define god *ever*, let alone pose him some challenge that you would expect can challenge god somehow.

god is completely beyond this realm, whatever it is you could pose to god he/she/it could do it, otherwise it’s not a god, **that** is the point..

there is no practical challenge you could ever hand to a god and defeat him, *none* at all. *EVER*

If you did pose a question to god that stumped him, you would have to be god yourself, that is if he doesn’t erase you from history such that the challenge never happened in the first place.

I don’t know what christians think god is about, but to even pose any challenge like this to god is blasphemous, is it not?

To do so, is to question the authority of god itself, doesn’t that break the first commandment somehow?

if there were a god, it would be present at every moment in time at every point in space simultaneously. humans think so linearly, don’t they?

mostly written, 13th December 2008. mostly…

Posted 14 December, 2008 by manabrau in god, Religion Sux Arse

What song will atheists sing at christmas time? (religiorant)   Leave a comment

“What will the atheists sing, during the praise of “winter solstice?””

*facepalm*

uhmmm.. perhaps the atheist will sing those songs that they had been enjoying all year instead of making a big deal out of having special songs for this one time of the year?

and what’s wrong with non-believers being able to sing Christmas songs anyway? Personally I love a whole bunch of Christmas songs.

perhaps the atheist will also wonder why christians have this one special bit of the year when they claim they are loving people when they should be nice to each other for the whole year? What’s that about?

The way it seems to me is that there are more “christians” who reveal themselves to be arseholes at Christmas time than at any other time of the year!

But perhaps at Christmas time, the atheist might think that christians *need* an excuse to be kind and generous? seeing how they prattle on about belief so much, I see a lot of bragging that people are good christian people, but I see little of people claiming to be christian who use their “christian” message to have anything nice to say.

perhaps, the atheist wouldn’t wait for that one time of year to celebrate anything, I mean if it’s a good thing, then why wait for that day which only comes around once a year?

but.. uhmmm.. stupid question time… but since when does an atheist celebrate or praise anything in particular in the name of atheism in the first place?

There are no public holidays that I am aware of that are set aside for atheists.

Atheism is not a religion, despite the proselytizing from the masses that it is indeed, a religion.

So to say that an atheist is celebrating the winter solstice by implying they would be engaging in arbitrary rituals like it’s some sort of religious holiday is an utter fallacy to begin with and it is clearly said out of arrogance and ignorance, but is said mostly out of hate for the atheist. Hate isn’t something that Jesus commanded, is it?

celebrating the solstice is pagan, anyway… yes – that’s right – Christmas is a PAGAN thing. The Romans put Christmas at the same time as the pagan celebration of the solstice – so in fact, it is the christians that can take their celebrating of the birth of Jesus at “Christmas time” some place else, as christians are usurping traditions that aren’t even christian to begin with…

any atheist celebrating anything because of their atheism is just doing it to “mess with” smarty pants religious idiots or they are merely done to piss the religious types off! After all, atheists are evil and treacherous with their deviousness, so it’s to be expected.

and there was this other fuckhead thing said…

“all Christmas songs, celebrate both God and Jesus! Both names, God and Jesus, are in nearly every song.”

WHAT A FUCKING GENIUS!! THAT’S *WHY* THEY ARE CALLED CHRISTMAS SONGS, FUCKHEAD!!

That’s like saying love songs celebrate the giving and receiving of love.

“Really? I never would have guessed that Christmas songs were about, Jesus and god!! I thought they were all about Satan? .. oh, I mean Santa!”

All this referring to atheism as a faith by the “faithful” is merely about the religious persons’ need to point at something and say:

“hey look, my faith has validity! we have holidays and songs, so my faith *must* be valid! do atheists have ‘atheist day’? no! are there any songs about atheism?? NO!!! so my faith has more credence than your atheistic stupid faith does, so believing in god is more valid, so I win, I’m better than you are! nur nur…”.

All this denouncing of atheism, is just to offset the doubts that the religious people have, because if you truly did have faith, then nothing what so ever should be able to shake that faith. So the more someone goes off saying their faith is valid because there are aspects of it in every day life, the more it indicates how little faith they actually have in their own beliefs. This is because your faith is supposed to be an *internal* thing, external entities are not supposed to be able to validate or invalidate that faith.

That’s called idolatry, when you have some external “thing” to prop up your religion, isn’t it?

When was the last time you saw an atheist standing in the middle of a crowded shopping mall yelling at the top of their voice saying that there is no god? that evolution is a fact? that Charles Darwin was right? that Friedrich Nietzsche is the Messiah? that Baruch Spinoza’s ideas on god are the only valid ones and that if you don’t believe them, then you are going to burn in hell for all eternity at the hands of Satan, as we all know atheists worship Satan, they just don’t acknowledge it in public, like how that Xenu rubbish went public when it was supposed to be a secret only revealed to the highest ranks in Scientology.

and yes, this is where you point out that atheism isn’t a religion, it’s just a label for people without a religion, that’s all there is to it. Anyone trying to make atheism out to be a way of life is severely fucked in the head.

“Hi Honey! I’m home to our happy atheist home from my happy day at the atheist office!”
“Hi Honey! MWAH!!”
“So what did you do on your atheist day off today Hun?”
“Oh nothing really, I just denied the existence of god all morning and said a few mantras to Charles Darwin after lunch”
“But Honey! you do that every day!”

Why do christians insist on having Christmas only once a year? shouldn’t Christmas be every day, shouldn’t the birth of this fantastical LORD be celebrated to it’s fullest extent each and every day? That’s why I am not a christian, because no-one seemed to be putting in even a half hearted effort at trying to emulate their Messiah.

And on an Easter note, why could Jesus not have stayed dead for seven days? Then we could have had the whole week off and not just a lousy long weekend?

“Peace on earth will come to stay, when we live Christmas every day.”
–Helen Steiner Rice

mostly written 12th December 2008, mostly.. it’s Easter so let’s do a Christmas blog…