what happens when someone publishes a book and people go on some sort of rampage after reading this book?
what happens when somebody makes a speech that breeds and/or encourages hatred or some sort of bigotry?
what would happen, if say, I wrote a book and a bunch of people got the idea to go around killing, raping, invading countries, being violent in general, beating up minorities or some other terrible thing like that – because they read a book that *I* wrote?!?
would I be accountable somehow? yes? no? sort of? not sure? don’t give a rat’s?
I’m not sure of the law where you are, I’m not even sure of the law here, but I’d expect that I’d be accountable *somehow*, even if the public’s reaction was unintentionally provoked on my part.
what if this book became popular long after I was gone? what would happen then? am I still accountable, posthumously? would, or *should* someone still be responsible?
The point being, is that such a book would be removed from circulation altogether, or it would be declared an “adults only” type book, restricted to being viewed or purchased by minors or it would have a disclaimer attached to the front, something like
“This book is not supposed to cause violence towards your fellow human. The author is not responsible if you decide to kill anybody after reading this book.”
So… here’s the question…
why hasn’t the bible been banned? why doesn’t it even have a disclaimer?
The bible *should* have a disclaimer on the front and it should point out all the things that are dubious and hypocritical and morally vague or conflicting with today’s laws.
So *before* anyone goes ahead and reads the bible, they might want to consider exactly what this publication is advocating, just in case they read the bible and then go around hating gays or something lame like that not long they had finished reading the bible..
and why not?
i’ve heard stories of people hacking their own hands off … i bet you have too…. what was their excuse for hacking their hands off? because the *BIBLE* said to do it!
Matthew 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast [them] from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
and I have heard of stories that claimed people have plucked their *own* eyes out
Matthew 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast [it] from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
the bible is responsible for so much hatred, “oh the bible says gays are an abomination”
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.
“oh the bible says incest is OK” “oh the bible condones slavery” “oh the bible this” “oh the bible that” bible blah dee fucking blakkedy blah blah bah bah… sorry if i can’t be bothered to quote all the relevant verses of rubbish from the bible….
oh yes, i hear what some of you are saying, “it’s the people that read the bible and take it too seriously/literally that are the problem!!!” something like that, hey?
hello! that’s my fucking point!
oh, and perhaps the apologists would say that if it wasn’t the bible that influenced them, then they would have found some other way to justify their crappy attitude to the world.
well, I concede, sure that’s probably right, as we all know that anybody from any walk of life can flip out and go on the rampage, or go “postal” as it’s been commonly termed.
but what else is there that has really screwed up the minds of so many? what other book or film or individual has been the source of so much division in the world?
And yet the bible remains unbanned – especially in a society that often shows that it still has ultra-prudish people with their objections to seemingly innocuous things – eg. if you don’t like seeing women in skimpy bikinis, then what the fuck are you doing at the beach in the middle of the summer? if you don’t like profanity, then why are you watching comedians that are more than well known to have a potty mouth?
And to top off the hypocrisy, I seriously doubt you could find two christians that could interpret everything in the bible in the same way anyway. christians talk about “absolutes” – but it’s very likely that very few of these born again christians would interpret the whole bible even vaguely in the same way, let alone *exactly* the same way, let alone interpret it *correctly* ..
I suspect this is why Catholics still make up 51% of the global christian population, because as far as I remember or understand, Catholics are told how to interpret the bible by their priests. If they have questions, the Catholic consults their priest! So there’s a reduced amount of this making up your own minds about what the bible is supposed to mean when you are a Catholic.
And you know, I thought that was a bad thing for quite a while, but, isn’t it better that everyone get it wrong the *same* way, than everyone getting it wrong completely differently? that’s chaos commonly referred to as “born again christianity!”
but shhhssssh! don’t tell the christians, but that’s what’s killing christianity, every one making up their own interpretations of the bible when they should be talking to someone who has actually studied the bible…
So… what other thing or person espousing notions of love and togetherness and peace for all mankind, somehow also gets some people all riled up enough to be able to justify hating other religions and races and differences of opinion or whatever else bigoted shit so openly and so proudly?
i can’t think of anything else? how about, the Qu’ran? The Satanic Verses? Mien Kampf? Those Danish Mohammed cartoons? The original Stars Wars trilogy or the prequel trilogy? Picard or Kirk? Old Battlestar Galactica versus the new Battlestar Galactica? ???
I can’t think of anything, can you?
so why doesn’t one of the greatest causes of violent conflict and piss poor attitudes to people across the entire world, get taken off the shelf, permanently?
It should be illegal to try and ‘offer’ your religion to others. Spreading the word should be a crime, a hate crime at that.
At the very least, the bible should be considered an “adults only” bit of literature, it should have the book equivalent of an “R” rating. Do books even have ratings?
Seriously, what child can make sense of all the nuances of the bible?
Heaven, hell, good, bad. It’s funny but the first conceptualisation I remember about evil, came from the bible. Maybe if I wasn’t exposed to the bible at all I wouldn’t have spent ten years worrying that I would offend god and that I was being evil or bad or what the fuck ever it was I would dwell over that I can’t remember now, but being struck down where I stood by god was one of the thoughts I would often have – and I didn’t even fucking believe in it!
How about the age of consent be used in regards as to when a young person is suitably aged to be exposed to the bible, or religion in general for that matter? Maybe, voting age is a better idea?
because aren’t you screwing up the minds of children with unneeded worries when you tell them about heaven and hell?
How is creating unnecessary anxiety in a child, not abusive on *some* level? The child could go on to have anxiety problems their whole life, all thanks to some body telling this child “You need to believe in Jesus or you’re going to hell!”… I wish that was a joke, but it’s not.
If you’re a parent and you need to use biblical fear to keep your child in line, are you not deferring your ability as a parent to people of the bronze age?
People should realise that a child will not concern themselves with the positive aspects of the bible, or any religion for that matter, they will simply dwell in fear over the negative aspects.
A child might think, “Who cares if Jesus loves me? WHAT IF I do something wrong, I’m going to burn in hell for ever and ever and that’s a very long time and it’s going to really hurt, much more than a tooth ache by the sound of it!!”
Apparently taking note of the negatives in our life is written into our genes, which makes sense actually.
A cute bunny rabbit is to your left, and a snake is to your right, which one are *YOU* going to pay attention to?
In fact, I bet some of us would move toward the bunny and pick it up to protect it from the snake! Some of you might even hide behind the bunny for protection.
We take more note of the bad or dangerous things in life so that we can avoid them, we even take note of the potential of things to be dangerous.
But seeing how hell is just a aspect of something based on somebody’s faith, then you are merely creating unnecessary anxiety in the child’s life, that’s what the child will dwell over. That’s how *I* remember it.
That’s cruel isn’t it? You are telling the child to fear something that doesn’t exist in this world, this is *unnecessary*, it should be avoided, should it not?
*Some* kids become so fearful of hell, they don’t confront their fears and/or ask questions, they displace their fears with the notion that praising Jesus fiercely and often, will keep them from going to hell.
It’s almost like if those kids keep on praising Jesus all the time, they can’t ever sin because *all* they do is praise Jesus!
This is probably the sort of kid that shoots up a school yard of “sinners” all the while saying “The lord is my shepherd, I shall not want” and that “shadow of the valley of death” bit over and over again…. I’m sure I saw that in a TV show.. or was that a re-enactment of something real? it’s not funny either way
(1) The LORD [is] my shepherd; I shall not want. (2) He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. (3) He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake. (4) Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou [art] with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. (5) Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. (6) Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.
These children are indoctrinated into believing christianity, but christianity *created* “hell” in the first place, and then offered it’s remedy, Jesus.
Which for my mind, is a bit like getting cancer on purpose to be in a “club” and then getting a miracle cancer cure which only this “club” can provide. Which then doesn’t cure everyone anyway, and actually makes some people worse.
So, yes, burn it, ban it, erase it…
Getting your morals out of the bible is akin to teaching your kids about life by sitting them in front of commercial TV for hours on end.
Oh FUCK! I just realised something! If the bible gets banned, it may just fucking “MARTYR” it somehow and all those people who never heard of the bible and all those people who never actually *read* the bible might just be compelled to buy a copy and then they would open it up and start reading it and find out exactly what is in there and…. oh… never mind… carry on as before. burn the bible. ban it. launch it into orbit
“I don’t care what they may say, Jesus is just alright with me, Jesus is just alright oh yeah!!”
mostly written 22 Nov 2008… mostly… oh why fight it… all i seem to do is mock religion, yes, i have plenty of free time on my hands.. but i might as well get it out my system… so let the religio-bashing continue unabated… oh, it just might take quite a while before these “god hating” “evil” blogs dry up…