Archive for December 2007

What I Believe… (Episode No. 1… for the most part..)   Leave a comment

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Religious Persecution

mostly written 1/Jan/2008, mostly.. so understand that this was written seconds after I started blocking christian fundies left right and centre… because I had just been threatened and lied to by christians, so if you think you are being lumped.. well sorry.. but they are blocked because i don’t want them apologising for being unchristian because if you know you’re being unchristian then why were you unchristian in the first place?

seriously … i’ve heard the most pathetic excuses from ”christians” trying to justify their christianity and a private apology when they’ve publicly insulted me means they can get fucked because their apology means nothing… (you read the disclaimer up the top right?)

maybe i should stop telling the un-christians what the ‘better’ christians should be telling them, but since they are better christians than these ppl being un-christian in the name of being christian, they don’t tell them coz it’s not christian-like to tell people that they are being un-christian…..

so… i’m posting this coz.. well i’m bored… and clearing out the back log of unposted dribble..

i don’t like to offend ppl over their beliefs about god and whatever but for some reason they *keep* getting offended no matter what i do to play the indifference card. And truly, for nearly twenty years i’ve given little concern to the religious people in this world, well until this myspaz thing lured me in.. and no religion wasn’t what lured me here

but frankly, if u do upset someone with your beliefs (or lack of them) that person who is getting upset should sit back and ask themselves if they are getting pissed because what they believe might just not actually have any merit!

it is a terrible thing to believe something for years, decades even, and then have that notion suddenly vapourise when you are told or you figure out the truth…

if the answer you have to any question means you go grab for your bible or your koran or torah, then you are indeed not as human as you can be… using scripture to describe the universe is close minded – time to get over yourself and move forward – if you can’t quietly accept other peoples’ religions or lack of them – then you need to shut the fuck up if you are going to have the gaul to try and say that your religion is “the best” or is “the way” .. how fucking arrogant are you?

there! i told you i don’t like to offend ppl but ppl who follow any set of principles so vehemently, that can’t really be verified, i don’t believe are allowing their minds to open up to the universe of possibilities. that is close minded, that is not looking to the future.. it’s not… not really… religion is about maintaining the status quo …

so what do i believe then?

well i’m not sure … but this is what makes sense… at least to me!

universe:
the universe is infinite
the only thing that can go forever is nothing
you can have an infinite amount of nothing

so the universe – in it’s entirety – is probably mostly nothing…

god:
the definition of a god is that they can do anything right? then god can create itself without the need for some other higher being to do it – but how can a conscious being create itself if it didn’t already exist? it can’t! so it had to be always there and nothing can possibly exist forever, how can it?… so .. does that make god nothing? merely a concept?

so for me, god is in fact the universe – but of course – you sound like a nut case to a religious person if the universe is god now don’t you?… teehee, don’t tell them they sound like nut-cases for their belief though… so you either ignore the “god” label altogether or you call the universe “the god”, superior to all other (false) gods.. because the christian god… is NOT big enough for this universe.. sheesh – only two billion people at least vaguely believe in the christian god… more people on earth don’t believe in the christian god, than people who do, and that’s not counting the unknown volume of intelligent life in the rest of the universe…

fear:
if i may paraphrase Yoda: fear is the path to the dark side… once you start down that path.. forever will it dominate your destiny…

seriously.. once you have learnt to fear something – especially as a child – it will always be there in your mind even if you have managed to mostly overcome it in your adulthood…

in it’s most important context, for my mind at least, the fear of god, once a child has it in their minds that god is all powerful, that if they do something wrong they will be punished, while this may seem like a good idea to keep kids in line – that just speaks volumes to your parenting ability that you have to use the boogey man to keep your kids in line

and this scaring kids is not good, especially to fear things that are never seen, this will stay with them forever…

trust me, *I*KNOW* – there is *always* that nagging doubt about god once the concept is introduced and introducing that concept to a child isn’t a good thing, because then the child when the grow up, has to fight god out of their minds, or they capitulate, and succumb to the heavenly lord dude….

it’s how rational people approach this notion, that allows them to let go and or carry on with their lives, but not all people are rational and god fears implanted at an early age, I’ve no doubt, could lead to mental problems as an adult.

teaching children to fear god stagnates learning paths towards the real truth and quite literally brainwashes that child into religious doctrine – this is not good – seriously – brainwashing is the buzz word, but in literal terms here is what you are doing – you are forming synaptic pathways in the part of the child’s mind that deal with reasoning of the unknown – by filling it with religion early on, it is setting those pathways in the brain to a close minded way of thinking….

this is called ‘laziness’ …

and i don’t mean the fat arse lazy sit around on your butt all day sort of laziness, (it could be related though) i’m talking about the inability to think for yourself form of laziness…

by not indoctrinating a child into religion, their reasoning and logic about *all* things will be free of inherent preconceptions that deal with the intangible. what i’m saying is that god is a waste of time and that to teach it to a child is to in fact retard the development of the mind of that child, because they put their minds to things that have never been seen, and what is more useless than that? To be thinking over things that have no bearing in this life is a waste of time, if you can’t be good without god, then please feel free to embrace god, but don’t let go…

and now that i put it that way – isn’t that child abuse? seriously – why don’t ppl be truly lazy and not expose their kids to religion in the first place?

because seriously, a child doesn’t truly grasp the concept of god at a young age, it wasn’t until i was twelve that i realised god might be a sham, well actually i thought that he hated me, and that allowed me to let him go… eventually!

apathy will kill all religion eventually…. you can only guilt trip people for so long until one of them wakes up, and infects the rest… muahhahahahahhaha

Posted 31 December, 2007 by manabrau in rant, Religion Sux Arse

who created evil? god did, that’s who…   Leave a comment


so, who made evil? surely it must say in the bible whence foreout thoust cometh the evil?

so finally – i find the right verse – by accident whilst looking for something else –

so then there was this serpent character in the garden all evil and wily – so how the hell did he get there if he was so evil?? it seems a bit of an oversight on the part of the author of genesis how god created everything but skipped the little known fact that it was god who made evil in the first place!!

but that’s OK because Isaiah remembered to drill it out of you…

Isaiah 45:7

I form the light,
and create darkness:
I make peace,
and create evil:
I the LORD do all these [things].

that’s right, god created evil… it says so right there in Isaiah 45:7. But now it’s satan who gets blamed for all the evil in the world? satan is a patsy! god is a bastard!

Posted 29 December, 2007 by manabrau in Religion Sux Arse

who tempted adam and eve? (religiorant)   Leave a comment

mostly written 25/Dec/2007… mostly…. and I’ve actually answered a few of the things I’ve questioned in this blog since then

you may remember a few days ago i posted the story about me being a kid and reading the bible where satan is cast out to earth to rule over all he could survey…

seems that was just the twisted interpretation i came up with as a kid… because .. i can’t find the bit in the bible where he it says he was cast out to rule over all he could survey… perhaps that was just a caption on the illustration or perhaps it wasn’t a king james version of the bible…

in fact at any rate i can only find three references to satan falling or being cast out at all in the bible… hmmmm… that’s interesting is it not?

well, to me it is because for my mind, the devil is mentioned on every second page of the bible because of those “preachers” who go on about how satan corrupts the and stuff… but … that’s not how it is – considering how big the bible is the devil gets mentioned not that often – in the bible god is far more belligerent than the devil is…

ah.. here it is the passage that made me think the devil ruled the earth…

Luke 4:6
And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

to me this says blah blah the devil is tempting jesus blah blah but he then offers him all the power that has been delivered to him and he may give that power to anyone (everyone?) he wishes…

ok so we’ve established that the devil tempted jesus.. so does that mean the devil has already been cast out of heaven? surely he wouldn’t be tempting jesus on a mission from heaven under the instruction of god?

why do i point that out? because in revelation it says…
Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

so? well i thought revelations was about the future – that these were things that were yet to happen… cast out into the earth does sort of imply under the earth doesn’t it… hmmm… but if satan is cast out of heaven in the future… is that because satan left the earth to mount his final battle with heaven?


Revelations 12:12
Therefore rejoice, [ye] heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Revelations 20:2
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Revelations 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

the bible really needs a frikking time line for events .. coz i can’t tell from any passage in the King James version of the bible that actually says when satan was cast out – because – i always thought that the serpent in the garden of eden was satan… so very early on satan must have been cast out, no?

you would think the bible would mention in genesis if satan was cast out during that time, no? it does not – so the serpent was just evil all by himself hey? it wasn’t satan, not by my interpretation of genesis.

but if it wasn’t satan then why was the serpent so tempting? you’d think that if god created the garden of eden it wouldn’t have anything evil in it? so did god accidently create evil?

or was the serpent in the garden god himself? there is no mention of satan anywhere in genesis.. it merely implies the evil serpent tempted adam and eve but… if god created the garden and all the creatures in it…. uhmmm… if the serpent was god then why was he playing the role of a deceiver?

was the serpent, god, or at least under instruction from god to tempt eve with the fruit of the tree of knowledge? was it god tempting eve with the apple? you’d think that the bible would mention the devil being cast out of heaven sometime in between the time that the earth was made and when eve was tempted… it does not .. i just fucking read it then… it does *not* say evil was made present on the earth already…

it doesn’t say god created evil as some seperate entity – it does not say evil came from man – the serpent tempted adam and eve – the serpent was evil for passing along the idea of gaining more knowledge.. a creature created by god tempted adam and eve…

is this why science is “evil” – because to acquire wisdom is to “eat” from the tree of knowledge – and god said don’t do that – well news frikking flash – the damage is done – that was the original sin – i think god got pissed off coz it happened so quickly – so to seek science is to eat from that tree thing but .. thanks to eve disobeying god that first time are we not free to continue on – now that god has throw his hands in the air and left us to our devices?

is mankind at the point of, “in for a penny, in for a pound”?

so god says don’t eat the fruit from the knowledge tree but then he’ll tempt ppl anyway with this serpent character he’s created – why did the arsehole put that tree there in the first place? he is god, he knew what was going to happen, or at least what *might* happen, so why do it? what’s that called, when you do something – no matter how innocent it starts out as – when you know it’s going to snowball into something that’s going to blow up?

uhmmm.. is that not the definition of “evil” itself? so god puts the tree in the garden – tempts adam and eve with the evil notion of being smarter – then gets all frikking ticked off when his precious children go and do exactly what he’d been tempting them to do?

so i think my conclusion here is that satan wasn’t involved with the evil things that happened in the garden of eden… so why did god do that?

what did satan have to do with anything? did he just get fed up with god being a dick? is satan a frikking patsy coz god is too ball-less to accept his own short comings? i mean the dude was frikking suprised when he found that adam and eve had eaten of the tree? some god… all knowing? not likely, all powerful, pfft… oooohhhhh….

so satan is a patsy – and he only got ticked off at god after genesis – so god let the evil serpent corrupt eve then he gets all ticked about it.. then satan finally gets annoyed and launches a coup, but for some reason god is competant on that day.. well actually it mentions that archangel michael does the fighting for god in the bible somewhere, anyway, so this god dude doesn’t even fight his own battles ??

satan appears in job but it’s not exactly clear that he has been cast out from heaven, and in isaiah says he was been cast out … and somewhere (luke?) it says jesus saw the devil being cast from heaven…

but here’s a question… why ? what did satan do, that was *so* bad… ?

was satan smarter than god – handsomer – younger?? is ezekiel talking about satan here?

Eze 28:14 Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Eze 28:15 Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

i just don’t get it – u sit down and look at this thing and it just doesn’t add up… god made the evil serpent in the garden of eden… god made evil.. and as far as I can tell.. the devil had to have been cast out of heaven after genesis and if jesus saw the devil fall from heaven doesn’t that mean that the devil is only responsible for evil after jesus sees him fall?

uhmmm… so where did all the evil come from beforehand? it came from god did it not? so why is god all pissed off over his own mistake? if god hadn’t screwed up he would not have had to send jesus in the first place, no?

so satan stood up to god once – got kicked out of heaven – now god blames everything on satan – but it clearly says in genesis that the serpent tempted eve long before there is any mention of the devil / lucifer / satan – go look it up already – so to summarise: god is responsible for all the evil on earth….

do you still like the bible, kiddies?

Posted 25 December, 2007 by manabrau in bible, Religion Sux Arse, satan

i hate my christian upbringing…   Leave a comment


RELIGIORANT

mostly written, 11/Dec/07 – mostly ….

i hate my “christian” upbringing…

in my mind when something happens, it’s always an exclamation like … “god this sux!” or “thank god!” or “jesus christ!” .. for all my life.. that’s what my brain does, then my conscious mind kicks in and qualifies “god” as being “the universe, aka god” … “god damn it” ..

u know … fucking funny if it turned out that the persons who said the lords’ name the most or “thanked god” or made little quips like “god make this pain go away” were the ones who got their prayers answered… I mean god must be frikking busy right? .. he listens to all our prayers does he not? he doesn’t make them all come true but some he does…

is this why you’re not suppopsed to say the lord’s name in vain? coz every time you do it’s like … “oh here comes another prayer!! … oh… false alarm, another person kicked their toe god dammit!”

devout christian prayer:

dear god, i give you thanks on this day of my new job that i prayed i would get last month you remember right? well today is my first day and I really need to make a good impression and i can’t seem to find my keys and i know i put them somewhere……

meanwhile, here is me with my short curt prayer to god:

god damn it!! I can’t find my keys!! where are they?

then god sends that bit of energy that triggers that brain cell to wake up and remember where the keys were.. meanwhile the other guy who procrastinated, didn’t get his prayer answered.. well coz he took too frikking long.. god must be pretty busy, he ainst got time to hear all that, he ainst got time to fix shingles, nor to fix no window pane, he’s a gunna leave this place he’s …how does that go again?

Ain’t got time to fix the shingles
Ain’t a-got time to fix the floor
Ain’t got time to oil the hinges
Nor to mend no windowpane
Ain’t a-gonna need this house no longer
She’s a-gettin’ ready to meet the saints

Posted 11 December, 2007 by manabrau in Religion Sux Arse

tired of politically correct? me too, so MERRY FUCKING CHRISTMAS!! (offensive, politically incorrect dark humour)   Leave a comment


mostly written, 2nd December 2007, mostly ….

Mr. Garrison – Merry Fucking Christmas


Mr. Garrison: I heard there is no Christmas
In the silly Middle East
No trees, no snow, no Santa Claus
They have different religious beliefs

They believe in Muhammad
And not in our holiday
And so every December
I go to the Middle East and say…

“Hey there Mr. Muslim
Merry fucking Christmas
Put down that book the Koran
And hear some holiday wishes.

In case you haven’t noticed
It’s Jesus’s birthday.
So get off your heathen Muslim ass
and fucking celebrate.

There is no holiday season in India I’ve heard
They don’t hang up their stockings
And that is just absurd!

They’ve never read a Christmas story.
They don’t know what Rudolph is about
And that is why in December
I’ll go to India and shout…

Hey there Mr. Hinduist
Merry fucking Christmas
Drink eggnog and eat some beef
And pass it to the missus.

In case you haven’t noticed
It’s Jesus’s birthday
So get off your heathen Hindu ass
and fucking celebrate!

Now I heard that in Japan
Everyone just lives in sin
They pray to several gods
And put needles in their skin.

On December 25th
All they do is eat a cake
And that is why I go to Japan
And walk around and say…

Hey there Mr. Shintoist
Merry fucking Christmas
God is going to kick your ass
You infidelic pagan scum.

In case you haven’t noticed
There’s festive things to do
So lets all rejoice for Jesus
And Merry fucking Christmas to you.

On Christmas day I travel `round the world and say,
Taoists, Krishnas, Buddhists, and all you atheists too,
Merry Fucking Christmas, To You!

(Clapping)

Thank you Mr. hat

from
www.stlyrics.com

who gives a rats arse what ppl say at christmas time!! i personally say “happy christmas” and “merry new year” just to be difficult…

Australian society is very similar to the USA in that we have a lot of ethnic groups but we tend not to tolerate ppl being stupid – if u don’t like having a merry christmas then shut up or we’ll more than like rub it in your face even more – which is the aussie way after all!!

“So Ahmed! what did santa bring you? oopss! Sorry forgot that you are a Jewish person! … what! oh?? oh sorry!! a muslim? …. hows that working out for you? so, when do you think muhammed is coming back anyway? is he supposed to return? I wonder if he and Jesus aren’t going to show up at the same time and it’ll be a double bill! or maybe they’ll duke it out?? oh? there’s a jihad out on me?? when did *that* happen?? I mean i know there’s a generic one out for every christian and jew on the planet but… heh?… where did he go?” ..

but really it’s all in good fun – and you should hear the crap we give to the poms, the kiwis.. and we used to hang shit on the pakis and the indians like it was normal.. it’s a cricket colonial thing, but not anymore……

the world became less of a fun place to live in after 9/11 .. which i am certain was the idea, heh Mr Bush? get ppl all scared so you can invade a country on a lie and get away with it coz everyone in the USA hates them Muslims now? hey, Mr Bush?

in australia we still put up christmas decorations in the office regardless of there being ppl of different faiths – either they accept the culture of the country that they are NOT from or they can get out… seriously i know that’s not very tolerant but we *are* very tolerant in australia.. but don’t push you’re luck trying to inflict your values on us though..

if somebody complained, i’m sure there would be ppl who would go out of their ways to be christian to the faces of the ppl who complained.. seriously if i was being nice to someone by saying “Merry Christmas” and they complained about that .. i wouldn’t let them hear the end of it – i’d probably wish them merry christmas all year… or the appropriate thing for the season…

I mean saying “Merry Christmas” is a time honoured tradtion in oztraylia – and we don’t give a rats if you are christian or not – we like Christmas – it’s summer – it’s hot – the beer is cold – we love it – either join in the christmas spirit of mateship and comradery – or just nod and smile – because damnit if i was in your country i’d say, “thanks mate!!” if you were to wish me “Happy Muhammed day!” – even if some muslim in australia were to wish me a day of peace on June 8 (anniversary of muhammed dying in 632) – i would smile and say thanks! I really would – why can’t ppl of other faiths just go with the flow? why is christianity the lesser of the three evils?

when i was a kid there was no such thing as islam or judaism or any other religion – in fact all i knew was that i was roman catholic and that there was a church of england or some such – never really occurred to me that there were other religions – but when i found out there were other religions – it kind of cheapened christianity for me – to the point where i hated it. i hated the movie “the mission” not because it was crap – it was brilliant – but just the whole spreading of christianity like that… and suffering for your sins .. and nup.. never occurred to me to be an atheist either.. i just wasn’t catholic anymore…

but now all this petty bickering about respecting a culture that says if you are raped you commit adultery if you don’t have witnesses to back up your story….

but in saying that – if i went to some muslim country and they had some stupid custom of saying “Peace be unto the Prophet” every time i referred to muhammed (or whatever) – i would say it no questions asked – i would not be trying to convince the ppl around me that i don’t really believe in muhammed and that i’m offended that i have to say something stupid every time i said his name – no! i would do whatever the culture wanted! I WOULD RESPECT YOUR CULTURE – i wouldn’t like it but i *would* conform!

so why the fuck in “western” countries should the 95% majority who are content with the christian based society – even if they aren’t active christians – have to alter for the 5% minority?

WHY??

if u don’t like it go back to islamistan or to jewtonia or back to the jungle with the other head hunter cannibals where ever it is u are from – yes go back to your wars and your famines and your religious hatred – don’t bring it here thank you! things are were fine..

ppl of different faiths should respect the cultures that they are entering .. so either assimilate; or don’t bother coming here in the first place; or shut the fuck up…

one day they’ll accept my application to join the Foreign Relations office!

–edit–

to be fair – i hate all religion – i think it’s stupid – but it doesn’t mean that i have a problem with other ppl having religion – and it doesn’t mean i’m going to ram it in your face to give up your faith – it’s sweet that you can believe in something that has no proof what-so-ever… but don’t go trying to inflict your values on us – because you know damn well that those values are outdated and while they may be good for you – have a look around you – our values have given us this way of life – you complaining about “merry christmas” is a petty thing but it is indicitive that you want to bring the things that you think are “good” into our society and you want us to change our society to accept you — NO — you do NOT do that – that is FUCKING rude

i said it b4 and i’ll say it again – if i ever went to your country and you had stupid customs i would attempt to fit in and i wouldn’t dream in hell of making you change them at all – EVER! .. and you know .. those things you think are “good” could be very well why your home land is in turmoil in the first place – so keep it to yourself or fuck off – that’s the same for all religions – put it in my face and i consider it assault – so expect to be treated with contempt if you walk up to me and say “Accept Christ?” …

i’m all for different cultures having holidays and stuff – that’s the way to the aussie heart – get your religious days made into public holidays! “What did you do for Ramadan?” “We went snorkelling up near Townsville” “Sweet! I stayed in town and got smashed every night!” – which is probably not in the spirit of ramadan now is it? but still…. it’s a sharing of the cultures

and yes while christianity has stopped being so invasive in the last 100years or so – christianity invaded pretty much the entire world… north, central, south america, africa, australia.. cripes pakistan and india are part of the commonwealth so they were part of the british empire at one stage.. i don’t approve of all the christian invasions but i wasn’t there – but i think i’d prefer the more tolerant christianity to the strictness of other religions…

frankly i was open to tolerating ppl’s religions but when they start to whinge that they can’t have such and such or they are offended by our customs – it’s like i’m sorry – why are you here again? is it because your country is crappy? could your country be crappy because of the wars fought between different religions? so what is you are doing now? are you trying to lay the seeds of war and conflict here by trying to get us to be “tolerant” of your religion and respect your values? when are you going to stop asking us to tolerate more and more of your shit?

I’ve seen plenty of news reports where foreigners haven’t followed your customs and they’ve been carted off to the desert and tortured over what? for not being understanding of your customs? do we torture you for days on end when you don’t like being wished merry christmas?

another purpose of this blog was ppl playing the race card to what end? to piss ppl off? deliberately? where i was working once some lecturer complained about our office door having merry christmas on it one year.. why? it was in a hall that was solely there to get access to our offices so it wasn’t a thoroughfare where ppl were walking past all the time – anyway, that sign stayed there for about two years and no-one complained again… it could still be there actually..

–edit–

oh i didn’t think about the aborigines in the above and i’m sorry but if i was there i would have objected to their treatment – my first best friend was an aborigine so it never really occurred to me that ppl could be treated differently because their skin colour was different

also above when i said 95% or ppl i meant that surely 95% of ppl are happy with the way things are – regardless of their religion – i mean it is why they are here – in fact that number would be about 99% of ppl who actually wanted to live and let live and all get along

i don’t mind what religion ppl follow – but keep it away from me – i mean how can somebody say to me this is the word of god, then twenty minutes later someone else says that what he is saying is the word of god… the arrogance of these ppl to both think they are right.. i don’t know what’s right so i don’t believe in anything – but then if they claim that their god is one and the same – then it’s like well why don’t u convert to his religion or vice versa?

if you are from another country – great!! hello!! welcome to australia! merry fucking christmas

Posted 2 December, 2007 by manabrau in 9/11, Islam, rant, Religion Sux Arse