what does the year have to do with christ being the lord?   Leave a comment

every now and then, some idiotic christian spouts off that because the current year is based on the alleged birth date of their precious Jesus Christ…. and that somehow means that Jesus is “real”..

*facepalm*

Being correct about Jesus being “real”, is irrelevant, even if you *are* correct, because aside from this being idolatry, but… what the fuck does the frikking year have to do with anything?

The year is an arbitrary numbering system that could have been based on anything, so how does the numbering of our years got anything to do with being a good christian? That *is* the point of being christian; that you be a kind and generous and loving individual, you know that, right?

That is all there is to christianity so if you need the constant stimulation in seeing that it is the “year of our lord” as some sort of reminder that you need to be (or are) a good christian, then your motivations for being christian are driven by selfishness because all *you* are interested in is seeing things that are christian and since *you* see christian things, that somehow makes *you* a believer, and that somehow makes *you* a good person and that somehow means that *you* get to live with god in heaven for all eternity when *you* die…..

#fail at being Christ-like much, or is it just a hobby?

but even if the year being based around Christ is supposedly some beacon in our history that proves that Christ is lord or some shite, then it should be pointed out that Christ was pretty much a nobody for the first three hundred years after his death… and that the Anno Domini calendar wasn’t devised until 525AD and wasn’t adopted by anybody until 532AD and was not widely used by many people until 800AD or so … and some countries didn’t adopt it until about 1400AD!

the Ancient Romans used the founding of Rome as the reference point for the year, which in our current scheme of years, was 753BC

the calendar we use today is based on ten month Roman calendar which then evolved into the twelve month calendar that was introduced by Julius Caesar at about 45BC and was slightly amended later on by Augustus in 4AD, this calendar was used up until 1582AD when Pope Gregory slightly changed it again..

but the point here is that we have had many calendars over the millennia and we didn’t start using the Anno Domini calendar until 532AD – so when some smart arse goes on about how the year being based on the “fact” that Jesus was born is proof of Jesus, then they can be told something along the lines of: if Jesus was so special, then why did it take over five hundred years to start using his birth year as the current year?

ps. the monk who “calculated” Jesus’ birth year, got it wrong, 2012AD should actually be 2016AD, by the way

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini#History

Posted 21 December, 2012 by manabrau in bible, Christianity, history, idolatry, jesus, Religion Sux Arse

the burden of proof is upon the believer to actually believe…   Leave a comment

when it comes to the existence of god, the burden of proof shouldn’t be one of establishing whether that supernatural entity exists or not, because honestly, that will never be proven or disproven so it is an endless pointless argument…

For my mind, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, so you need to have god-like evidence in order to prove that a god is just that, ie. a *god*. Meaning to say that should such a creature exist in any capacity whatsoever, then according to the popular definitions of god being all powerful, everywhere and nowhere at once, knows everything, lives forever, infinitely clever etc etc, then god is such an infinitely complex being that even if you did have actual evidence you wouldn’t know what it represented, because to claim any knowledge of what this infinitely complex being called “god” is or what it is about or what it wants, is to insult that god… well, it would be, if your existence wasn’t so insignificant to it, that is.

I imagine god and our perception of such a thing as being like this: imagine a one dimensional universe; in a one dimensional universe there is only that one single point in that universe: there is no up and down, no left or right, there is no such thing as length, height and width. That single point could only be aware of its own existence, it is beyond the definition of a single dimension universe for there to be anything other than that single point. However, from our human point of view above the lower two dimensions in our three dimensional universe, we know that single points in space can be joined to make two dimensional representations, and we also know what two dimensional objects can be joined to make three dimensional objects.

In a single dimension universe, that single point of view could only ever hope that there was a dimension above it, it could never have proof of such a thing, because if it did have proof of there being a dimension beyond its own, it would require another single point in its universe to be a part of its single point universe in order to prove that there was something, *anything*, beyond its existence, but to do so, it would need to “transform” its single dimension universe, into at least a two dimensional universe.

So the only way that single point in its single dimension universe would be able to have “proof” of a higher dimension and remain in its current dimension, is if it made it all up, it could only be pretending that there was something more to its existence, regardless of whether it actually turned out to be completely right in its assertions!

So in regards to god, if you could prove that god exists, for me that would mean that doing so would defy the very definition of god because how could an infinitely complex being even be perceived by mortally bound humans from our lower point of view?? We can’t perceive god because we are like that single point in space, we only know of our single point in space, we can’t conceive of anything beyond that single point, because there is simply nothing in our perception that could represent anything outside our single point universe except for our *imagination*.

The reality of this point of view, is that the true blasphemy to god, is that humans had the audacity to dream up the concept of god in the first place. For my mind, the only reason humans invented god was because of human arrogance in their attempts to become more like god themselves, and to be like god, even in the smallest of degrees, is idolatry, at least according to the bible’s first commandment.

“Love thy god before all others” especially applies to those who are pretending to be god themselves, because if you claim to be a follower of Jesus, but then you don’t follow what he allegedly taught, then you are making up your own Jesus. You have your own personal Jesus in your brain; you are probably mistaking this Jesus of yours for your ego.

Soooo… seeing how this god creature can never be proven or disproven by us mere mortals without practically becoming gods ourselves, the burden of proof should shift to be one of the believer demonstrating that this fantastically enlightened being called “god” actually exists by the believer actually following what it taught.

Seriously, Jesus says in the bible, in three gospels, that if you want to go to heaven then sell all your stuff and give the money you make to the needy.

If christians want me to believe that this god of theirs exists and if they truly expect that they are going to get into heaven, then they can damn well show that they are serious about their religion by actually taking what their messiah taught seriously because it is more than apparent to me that the biggest hurdle for any christian, is to actually do what their messiah told them…

I mean, look at all the people telling others to follow Jesus when they aren’t even following what he taught, people who do that, are merely saying that they are following Jesus, they aren’t actually *doing* what he taught and if they aren’t doing what the biblical Jesus said, then that right there is a person who is pretending to be Jesus/god and in actual fact, seeing how this Jesus of theirs is actually their own ego, they are actually asking that you should follow *them* and believe in everything that *they* believe in. (and christians have the gall to say that atheists are pretending to be god?)

The object of getting everyone to merely say that they just believe, is that if *everyone* is merely just following Jesus by merely just saying that they are, then there will no reason for those pretend-to-be christians to feel guilt for not actually following their messiah’s teachings. something like: “Hey, if no-one else is doing what Jesus commanded, why should I bother as well? and seeing how everyone is still saying they follow Jesus, I will too, just so I can seem to fit in and be part of the group so as to not be excluded and not be taunted for not believing…” …

I look at atheists and christians, and the only difference between the two of them is that the atheist isn’t pretending to be something that they are not. The atheist is boldly declaring that they aren’t following Jesus, unlike the christian, who doesn’t have the perspicacity to realise or the balls to own up to the fact that they aren’t actually following what JC allegedly taught either.

Essentially, any christian objection to atheism is one of “how dare you not pretend to follow Jesus like I am!” .. the christian is jealous of the atheist ability to not be a bullshit artist and that the atheist has the ability to do good deeds because it is the right thing to do. Doing good deeds, regardless of your beliefs, was in fact the point of the Good Samaritan. If you do good deeds without claiming that you are christian, then you are already one up in JC’s good books, if you say you a christian, but then do nothing to prove that claim by doing good deeds, you are most certainly not in JC’s good books.

Don’t believe me? read the gospels of Mark, Luke and Matthew, any claims to the contrary that are supposedly from the bible, are very much likely to be things that Jesus didn’t say, and if Jesus didn’t say them, then what the fuck are you calling yourself christian for if you aren’t listening to your precious messiah? Are you a “Saint” Paulian? or an Old Testamentarian? or do you follow what *J*e*s*u*s* taught?

the outspoken and annoying christian feels a need to spread their empty faith because they are not following what the central figure of their religion even teaches, they feel the need for other people to have provide the burden of proof because they are not comfortable with their just believing in Jesus, it isn’t enough for them, they need to have others “just believe in Jesus” as well, so the mere existence of outspoken atheists is an affront to their empty declarations of their “just believe in Jesus” faith because the atheist represents the truth to them and the truth of christianity, especially in “western” nations, is that christians are not following their messiah either… Putting the burden of proof onto others is the christian saying “well, you aren’t helping the needy either!!” to which the non-believer position should be.. “while that may be true, unlike you, I don’t follow a supernatural being that commanded that if I want to get into heaven, then I will help the needy, to my own detriment, if need be”

Open declarations of atheism are announcements that are akin to saying “why should I follow what you are only *pretending* to be following, why the fuck should I pretend to follow your religion as well?? there is no way I am following your religion just to make you feel better about you *not* following what your precious messiah taught”

The christian burden of proof is shoved into the faces of christians by atheists by the atheist brazenly walking around declaring that they can be actual people without pretending to be a follower of Jesus. The atheist does not need to pretend to believe in something that they don’t even follow, this is an insult to the Christ-ego of the pretend-to-be-a-believers. How can the atheist NOT pretend to be a christian? how can they NOT go around merely declaring that they are good people? It doesn’t take much to pretend that you are a good person, so HOW can the atheist not pretend to be better than everyone else, it is blasphemy!

If everyone in a particular society walked around pretending to be followers of Christ, then there would be no guilt associated with not actually following what this Christ guy was trying to teach those who would allege to be one of his followers.

seriously, show me a christian person that can truly claim that they have given most of their money to the needy; could claim that they aren’t hateful; that they aren’t judgemental; that they are meek and don’t brag that they are a believer; that they would sooner die or let their family die than bring hurt upon someone else; that they help out people regardless of beliefs and creeds….

these are the things Jesus taught that you must do in order to follow him and get into heaven, the burden of proof is completely upon the believer to actually get in there and show everyone that they are doing as Jesus commanded… and even then, it is against the teachings of Jesus to be showing off that you are actually following his teachings by doing good deeds in front of others for the purpose of showing off that you are doing good deeds!!! Anything else that conflicts with the stuff i listed above that is supposedly from the bible, was more than likely not said by their precious Jesus in the first place..

remember, half the New Testament is supposedly written by some self appointed apostle that, at least up until the moment in the story where Jesus was crucified, was rounding up Jesus’ followers and executing them! “Saint” Paul was trying to eliminate Jesus… think about that…. nearly everything I have had a problem with from the New Testament is a “Saint” Paulism.

Proof to the non-believer that there is no such a thing as Jesus, should be the fact that the two billion people supposedly claiming to follow Jesus, haven’t spread their wealth out across the planet and made sure that every needy person on earth was no longer in need, you know, as their Lord and Saviour *commanded*… Commandments are generally not considered to be an optional thing that you can do, or even get away with doing a mere few times, giving to the needy would seem to be a compulsory precursor for heavenly entry to the christian.

I *facepalm* at the USA richest-nation-in-the-world christians and their claims that the USA is a christian nation; the USA has twice as many people in poverty as Australia has people, how is that possible in an alleged “christian” nation?

The burden of proof, at least for christians to prove that their is a Jesus and therefore a *god*, is to eliminate poverty world wide.

Until then, all of christianity is to be called into question as to what the fuck have that lot been doing for the last two millennia?

Posted 6 October, 2012 by manabrau in Uncategorized

no point claiming what you have no right to claim (religiorant)   Leave a comment

you have to laugh at people who defend their christianity without ever actually being an actual christian themselves, I mean, there are christians who worry that christianity will disappear if non-believers get their way… and they worry about such trivial things like the “War on Christmas?” … ahem … seriously, guys, Christmas was created by the Romans a few hundred years after JC supposedly died to make it easier for the pagans to assimilate christianity, so it wasn’t actually part of Christianity in the first place.

… but …

the strange thing about people and their objections that christianity might die off, is that there is *already* no such thing as christianity, at least not how the Jesus Christ character from the bible taught it, at least, not in the “Western” world.

Most of these other Jesus characters that alleged christians boast about believing in, seem to be only vaguely based on the bible-Jesus, because for the most part, most of the christians that I am aware of have made up their own Jesus, right there in their heads because how else would this Jesus of theirs just happen to share all the same likes and dislikes that they do if they didn’t invent him themselves?

“If god didn’t exist, it would be necessary to invent him…”–[Voltaire]

Yes, I am saying that some people believe in god for the very purpose of justifying their bigotry.

Like those religious people who are against homosexuality because god says its “wrong”.. well, even *if* it is wrong, what do other people’s relationships have to do with you? And furthermore, even *if* it is against the will of god, then this will be sorted out by god itself, at some later time so the fact is that believers are only being busy-bodies by telling others that they are sinning, at least in my experience. Either that, or they don’t really believe that their god will actually punish the sinners at some point in the future so they (have to) do it instead.. you know, just in case god doesn’t get the chance.

Believers should keep their judgements to themselves because I don’t ever recall the Jesus from the bible being hateful towards any particular sort of person, in fact, didn’t this Jesus guy say something about forgiving them? so, ahem, if christians are to follow his example, they shouldn’t be judging others, they should be compassionate and understanding towards others, so just how can they be hateful towards anybody simply because they don’t like particular types of people when it goes right against the fundamentals of what their Jesus taught?

And no, you don’t get to be a bastard to someone and then say that you love them or that Jesus loves them or whatever other godly orientated excuse you can come up with to justify your hatred because if you were truly following this Jesus guy, you wouldn’t have hated so much so that you would need to vocalise or write about your hatred in the first place… Personal hatred I can understand, ie. when you know the person, *personally*, but to hate a whole “type” of person, without knowing any of them… what was that judge not lest thee be judged yourself thing?

Remember the Good Samaritan? … the point is that Jesus didn’t care *what* people believed, he cared that you help people in need when you can. A lot of “good” christians seem to have forgotten the Good Samaritan parable….

A lot of christians also seem to forget that their values are *christian* religious values, I don’t follow your religion, your religion only applies to *YOU*, if you want to impose your religious values upon me then you are saying that your religion is *the* religion.

For this, I would need proof that your religion is the religion because as far as I am concerned, you aren’t even following your own religion anyway, so either show to me how you honour this JC guy’s teachings or stop pretending to follow him because even if your religion is the religion, then “so what?” – you aren’t following it properly, so why should I follow it as well?

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Oh .. and if you do actually show me how you honour the teachings of Jesus, then you have actually failed at honouring the teachings of your Messiah …

Matthew 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

… or the more easily understood … “you aren’t getting into heaven if you brag that you do good deeds”…

and one could further imply from the above bible verse that merely saying that you are christian and not doing good deeds is far worse, and just saying that you are christian, would seem to be the vast majority of christians

I mean seriously, if all two billion christians gave a measly ten dollars a year to a central charity that could give to the poor, then worldwide poverty could be almost eliminated but clearly poverty hasn’t been eliminated which says to me that christians are not doing their sacred duty so how do they expect to get into this heaven of theirs when they didn’t try very hard at actually earning entry to said place of eternal peace?

If I were christian, I wouldn’t be expecting Jesus to be coming back any time soon, considering that christianity allows people in need to continue to exist and yet, the biggest concern among christians these days is how Christ is being taken out of Christmas?

you can’t merely just be a christian – you have to actually *do* something for those who aren’t as well off as you are… that’s my understanding of christianity and that is exactly why I don’t call myself christian. I would be lying to myself if I were to call myself christian, it would be like wearing a cheap suit from K-Mart with an “Armani” label tacked on to make it look like I was the shiz.

Don’t get me wrong, that cheap suit looks good enough to me anyway, so in spite of christians not actually being christian, for the most part, most of them are decent enough people anyway, but the fact is that they are pretending to be christian while there are still needy people in this world, so these feeble excuses people tell themselves as to why they do nothing are just going to piss this Jesus off, if he is in fact real.

Like this bullshit of you just need to believe in Jesus because he died on the cross … that’s fucking offensive … what a crock of utter shite?!?!!?

The whole point of dying on the cross was to show people how far Jesus expected his followers to go to avoid hurting people! It says so in the very same bible that christians pour over all the time, so if you missed that bit… read Matthew Chapter 16, the whole chapter

ie. if you don’t understand what you are reading in the bible, you don’t get to fucking make up your own interpretation!! Go find several priests and get second, third and fourth opinions.

…. and all of those Jesus-miracles? could it be that they were just to show that Jesus could save himself from persecution if he so chose to do so?

Going as far as Jesus did to avoid hurting anybody who was trying to kill him, set a standard that is way too high for followers of christianity to follow.

JC taught a whole bunch of shit that set the bar so fracking high that no one could claim that they are truly christian, not really.

For starters: JC taught that if you want to follow him and get into heaven, then you need to sell your stuff and give that money to the needy, so what is it with all the christians in their fancy suits with their shiny jewellery with all their little techno gadgets and their fuel guzzling cars and their houses etc etc – what hypocrites!?!

If you are a christian and you can afford the luxuries of life, then don’t kid yourself, you know damn well that if you were truly christian you would have given that money to the needy instead of spending it on yourself.

So if you are to claim that you are christian while there are still needy people in this world, you have absolutely no right whatsoever to be proudly stating that you are christian and the reason for this is simple: while there are needy people in the world, that means that there are christians that are not doing their bit to get into heaven.

There are two billion christians, how can there still be poverty anywhere in the world if giving to the needy (aka “love thy neighbour”) was being taken seriously?

To boldly and proudly claim that you are christian while you are walking around with more wealth in your pocket than some people have seen in their entire lives is utterly removed from what the christian messiah was trying to teach..

Being greedy is not the meaning of this love thy neighbour thing that Jesus taught. Being selfish is not what Jesus meant when he said go and spread the word, the word was “be nice to everyone, and help those in need” – not annoy the fuck out of people by getting them to “follow Jesus” just by saying that they follow Jesus – you are supposed to spread “the word” by your actions of kindness to others who are in need – if you are not doing that – then you are not christian – plain and simple.

in fact, to even make the claim that you are christian to someone who doesn’t know whether you deserve to be called christian or not, sees that you have already failed at actually being christian, because being christian is supposed to be something that you should earn via your actions with your good deeds and goodwill to all people yadda yadda yadda

Being christian can not ever be something that you merely claim and then expect to be taken seriously… *ever*

I mean, I can claim that I am an astronaut, but that doesn’t make it so, so if I make the astronomical claim to some stranger that i am an astronaut when I haven’t actually done anything that allows me to make that claim, then i should expect to be treated as a bullshit artist until i *can* back up this claim by actually going to space, or at the very least, be actively involved in training to be an astronaut, because if I don’t, then *everything* else I say, about anything at all, is *also* suspect.

Keeping that astronaut analogy in mind, anyone merely claiming that they are christian is instantly treated with the trepidation that they deserve for making such a spurious claim, because you’ve not proven yourself as being able to make such a bold claim. Not to me you haven’t.

It’s like being in court, I may or may not be an outstanding member of society, but if I lie to the judge, then the judge is going to assume that everything I say from that point on is a lie, at the very least, every thing I say is to be taken with a grain of salt. ie. I have told one lie, so the precedent is set, I can’t be trusted to be honest, so the judge will expect more lies from me because I have shown that I can not be trusted because I have already told one lie..

And christianity, is one massive lie, especially in the “western” world. There are so many “things” that are tagged as being “christian” these days that are nothing to do with what Jesus actually taught, so much so, that for me, anyone claiming to be “christian” is a matter of …. “meh! .. so what? do you want a gold star or something?”

the word “christian” pretty much means nothing to me now, it’s irrevocably tainted. So you are better off keeping your christianity to yourself because this “christianity” tag is just a heads up to the fact that you are more than likely NOT actually following what Jesus taught, ergo, if you tell me that you are christian when I didn’t ask you if you were, then I am inclined to think that you are a liar.

The ironic thing here is that if people would show that they deserved to be called a christian, then they would not need to even tell me that they are christian because I probably would have figured it out already in the first place, all by myself, as it’s pretty easy to spot people who are as generous as this Jesus Christ character I keep hearing about. In fact, someone who was even half as nice as this Jesus story-book character would stick out like a sore thumb in our self-centred society.

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What’s even more ridiculous is that by the christian “rules”, these claims of being christian that believers tend to make is not something to be taken lightly, it is their *eternal* souls that they are talking about, they get *one* chance to get it right, so to claim that you are “like Jesus” without backing up those claims, is rather unwise, because if indeed this whole Jesus Christ thing does turn out to be true, then the most fucked people on judgement day are going to be the people who merely claimed that they were christian when they did nothing whatsoever to justify making those claims.

Apathetically claiming you are christian is far worse than being a non-believer who did just as much to help the needy as some pretend-christians did, but at least the non-believers didn’t prance around telling everyone that they were better than everyone else because they believed in Jesus when others did not believe. What’s the fucking point of believing in Jesus if you don’t do what your Messiah has commanded you to do?

In fact, given the sheer volume of people claiming to be christian when they are not even close to being Christ like, then the wisest course of action, is to not claim you are christian, at all, even if you *are* a christian, as you wouldn’t want to be lumped in with the un-Christ-like christian mob, accidentally, should the end of the world or something like that happen.

The way I see it is that you are better off by not making the claim that you are christian because you are not taking it upon yourself to think yourself “worthy” … because, ahem, according to the bible, only Jesus gets to say whether you are worthy or not. So if you’re self appointing yourself as a christian, then one could speculate that you are saying that you are already bound for heaven. That assumption is idolatrous because you are not god, you are not Jesus, you are doing the job of your god by self-appointing yourself as a christian.

By not making the assumption that you are christian, you are not trying to declare yourself as being worthy, so you are not pretending to be Jesus Christ.

So if this Jesus thing is true and you haven’t made the assumption that you are saved, then you are better off because you have not assumed the job of Jesus and declared yourself worthy. Without making the bold statement that you are saved, your life is to be judged on what you did, and not some affectation that you wore as some sort of way to affirm that you are “chosen” or “saved” or that indeed, you are better than anybody else because you believe in some arbitrary story book character from thousands of years ago.

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The details of christianity are irrelevant, so to troll through the bible looking for its hidden meaning is an insult to the real Christianity as that Christ guy intended, because the crux of Jesus Christ’s teachings is that you are to be good to others, especially to those that are in need, that is what is important. That message isn’t hidden, it’s there in plain fucking site, if you can’t get the whole be-nice-to-everyone-and-that-means-everyone-even-the-gays-blacks-jews-hispanics-blah-blah-blah, then you are a failure at being christian.

Claiming that you are christian, doesn’t make you a good person, in fact, claiming that you are christian when you do not follow the teachings of Jesus is outright blasphemy.

If you are claiming that you are christian and yet you do not follow the teachings of Jesus from the bible, then you are making up your own version of Jesus, and if you have made up your own Jesus, then that is most definitely a false Jesus, and worshipping false gods (even if you just happen to call that god “Jesus” too) is idolatry, it breaks the first commandment of “love thy god before all others”, and the first commandment still applies to any god that you have made up… in fact, it applies especially to gods that you personally make up and breaking that first commandment is one way to certainly make sure that you are going to this hell that the non-believers are so commonly condemned to.

Damning people to hell is judging others as being unworthy, which is more idolatry, because to claim with authority that somebody is going to hell, is to claim that you are Jesus Christ himself because according to the bible story, only Jesus gets to send people to hell.

So even if the christian is *right* about a person going to hell, they *still* have no right to pretend to be the messiah by having the arrogant gall to even think that they have the right to sit upon the judgement throne of their precious *god*, let alone go around shouting to the world about who they think is unworthy of eternal peace.

So, if there really is a hell, I would expect it to be full of self-appointed christians who made the boldly arrogant assumption that they were going to heaven when they did nothing whatsoever to deserve to be going to heaven.

Oh, and just because you were born into a christian family or you told you that were christian, it doesn’t make it so either, you still need to earn your christian stripes, *before* you can wear them.

Posted 11 September, 2012 by manabrau in atheism, bible, Christianity, god, idolatry, jesus, Religion Sux Arse

Friedrich Nietzsche quotes   1 comment

was bored tonight so i read some web site that has some Nietzsche quotes and there are some things that he has said that are in common usage today… not saying he said them first but … anyway my fave Friedrich Nietzsche quotes from that site (link at the bottom)


Friedrich Nietzsche quotes

And we should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once. And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh.

Anyone who has declared someone else to be an idiot, a bad apple, is annoyed when it turns out in the end that he isn’t.

Arrogance on the part of the meritorious is even more offensive to us than the arrogance of those without merit: for merit itself is offensive.

Do whatever you will, but first be such as are able to will.

Faith: not wanting to know what is true.

For the woman, the man is a means: the end is always the child.

God is a thought who makes crooked all that is straight.

I cannot believe in a God who wants to be praised all the time.

I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance.

In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point.

In heaven, all the interesting people are missing.

In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.

Is man one of God’s blunders? Or is God one of man’s blunders?

It is good to express a thing twice right at the outset and so to give it a right foot and also a left one. Truth can surely stand on one leg, but with two it will be able to walk and get around.

It is impossible to suffer without making someone pay for it; every complaint already contains revenge.

It is the most sensual men who need to flee women and torment their bodies.

Love is blind; friendship closes its eyes.

Love is not consolation. It is light.

Mystical explanations are thought to be deep; the truth is that they are not even shallow.

No one lies so boldly as the man who is indignant.

One has to pay dearly for immortality; one has to die several times while one is still alive.

One may sometimes tell a lie, but the grimace that accompanies it tells the truth.

One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star.

One often contradicts an opinion when what is uncongenial is really the tone in which it was conveyed.

One ought to hold on to one’s heart; for if one lets it go, one soon loses control of the head too.

One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly.

Perhaps I know why it is man alone who laughs: He alone suffers so deeply that he had to invent laughter.

Shared joys make a friend, not shared sufferings.

Sleeping is no mean art: for its sake one must stay awake all day.

Success has always been a great liar.

Talking much about oneself can also be a means to conceal oneself.

That which does not kill us makes us stronger.

The “kingdom of Heaven” is a condition of the heart – not something that comes “upon the earth” or “after death.”

The abdomen is the reason why man does not readily take himself to be a god.

The aphorism in which I am the first master among Germans, are the forms of “eternity”; my ambition is to say in ten sentences what everyone else says in a book – what everyone else does not say in a book.

The best author will be the one who is ashamed to become a writer.

The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad.

The demand to be loved is the greatest of all arrogant presumptions.

The desire to annoy no one, to harm no one, can equally well be the sign of a just as of an anxious disposition.

The doer alone learneth.

The future influences the present just as much as the past.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.

The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it.

The lie is a condition of life.

The most common lie is that which one lies to himself; lying to others is relatively an exception.

The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.

The true man wants two things: danger and play. For that reason he wants woman, as the most dangerous plaything.

The word “Christianity” is already a misunderstanding – in reality there has been only one Christian, and he died on the Cross.

There are horrible people who, instead of solving a problem, tangle it up and make it harder to solve for anyone who wants to deal with it. Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.

There are no eternal facts, as there are no absolute truths.

There are no facts, only interpretations.

There are people who want to make men’s lives more difficult for no other reason than the chance it provides them afterwards to offer their prescription for alleviating life; their Christianity, for instance.

There cannot be a God because if there were one, I could not believe that I was not He.

There is always some madness in love. But there is also always some reason in madness.

There is not enough love and goodness in the world to permit giving any of it away to imaginary beings.

There is not enough religion in the world even to destroy religion.

This is what is hardest: to close the open hand because one loves.

Those who cannot understand how to put their thoughts on ice should not enter into the heat of debate.

Thoughts are the shadows of our feelings – always darker, emptier and simpler.

Today I love myself as I love my god: who could charge me with a sin today? I know only sins against my god; but who knows my god?

Two great European narcotics, alcohol and Christianity.

Undeserved praise causes more pangs of conscience later than undeserved blame, but probably only for this reason, that our power of judgment are more completely exposed by being over praised than by being unjustly underestimated.

We hear only those questions for which we are in a position to find answers.

We love life, not because we are used to living but because we are used to loving.

We often refuse to accept an idea merely because the tone of voice in which it has been expressed is unsympathetic to us.

We should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once. And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh.

What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger.

Whatever is done for love always occurs beyond good and evil.

Whoever battles with monsters had better see that it does not turn him into a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

Whoever despises himself nonetheless respects himself as one who despises.

Whoever feels predestined to see and not to believe will find all believers too noisy and pushy: he guards against them.

Wit is the epitaph of an emotion.

Without music, life would be a mistake.

Words are but symbols for the relations of things to one another and to us; nowhere do they touch upon absolute truth.

You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.

source http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/f/friedrich_nietzsche.html

Posted 5 March, 2012 by manabrau in Uncategorized

was anybody ever following what Jesus said to do? (religiorant)   Leave a comment

when one says that they follow Christ but then they don’t follow what he taught, one makes up their own version of Jesus, do they not?

isn’t making up your own god the very definition of idolatry?

In essence, any “christian” who does not follow the second commandment of “love thy neighbour” in any way and yet still claims to “follow Jesus” also breaks the first commandment because they have made up their own, personal Jesus…

This is a false Jesus. It might be close to the bible Jesus, but if you are not following what he said to do, then your Jesus is a false Jesus.

the whole non-violence thing Jesus went through by dying on the cross, was not to give some sort of get-out-of-hell-free card to those who simply believed in Christ, what Jesus was trying to teach was that dying up on the cross was the extreme that he wanted *everyone* to go to in order to avoid enacting violence upon others. The whole purpose of the miracles was to show that he *could* have done something to stop people from trying to kill him, but he chose not to defend himself by breaking the cycle of violence and letting himself be killed…

when you look at christianity that way, it would seem that little to nobody is actually following anything that this superhero Jesus guy taught anyway..

So was anybody, ever following what Jesus taught? I mean, the majority of people stick up for themselves when they are persecuted and does it not make sense that anybody who was actually following Jesus’ teachings, would find themselves “naturally selected” out of existence anyway?

that I feel, is the key to unravelling christianity, once and for all, point out that no-one is actually following it anyway.

It would seem to be a waste of time to be harping over petty things like the physics of Noah’s flood or how we’d all be inbred if we were initially spawned from a mere two people and how christians conveniently ignore all of those things that are supposedly abominations in the Old Testament, except those abominations that suit their particular flavour of bigotry, of course…

If you truly want to put an end to christianity, you’ll point out to the user that it has already ended because no-one is actually following what this fabled Jesus guy of theirs actually taught.

Jesus taught things like giving away all your money to the no-good free loaders was what christians were supposed to do if they want to get into heaven, it was only Jesus’ lazy arse followers who ever said that you can get away with just believing, Jesus said you had to actually do something to get into heaven…

Posted 22 January, 2012 by manabrau in Christianity, idolatry, jesus

"why doesn’t god help the needy?" is a flawed argument (atheiorant)   Leave a comment

i find the whole “why doesn’t god help the hungry” argument to be a flawed argument on the part of the atheist, especially when dealing with Jesus fans because Jesus taught that you are to help those in need, right?

Jesus taught that his *followers* should help people in need, Jesus never taught that he would fix things by coming down and/or fix things from remote – according to the story, this Jesus Christ god is not *ever* going to come down and help the needy because it is up to followers of Christ to get in there and do that – it is, after all, what the christian needs to do to get into heaven..

Timmy Tebow and his John 3:16 verse may seem to imply that you just need to believe, but the other three gospels say that you have to actually *do* something. ie. the other three gospels say that you get into heaven by giving your money to those who need it

think of how that Good Samaritan helped the guy he saw laying on the side of the road, it was a situation of opportunity, the Samaritan saw the guy in need, so he helped him out, no-one else did, but given the good nature of the helpful Samaritan, I would assume that he thought that he was the first person to come along and see the guy laying at the side of the road.

Now we’ve all known since the 80s, thanks to TV, that people are starving all across the world, so given that knowledge of people in need is so widespread – why haven’t the christians done what their Jesus told them to do? do they not want to get into heaven?

this is why that argument is flawed, it was never up to god to make things good, it was up to the believers in god to spread their wealth around until everyone stopped being in need, so there’s your proof that the Jesus from the bible doesn’t exist, there’s your proof that god is dead and that we’ve killed it because no-one is following Jesus, they are merely saying that they are “christians” because if richest 1% of the two billion or so christians actually gave a mere 10% of their earnings to the needy – i can’t see how needy people could still exist in such vast numbers if christians were actually following their Messiah.

Posted 14 January, 2012 by manabrau in Christianity, jesus, Religion Sux Arse, usa

who the fuck is Tom Tebow? (religiorant)   Leave a comment

DENVER (CBS Denver) — Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow is not the only one who thinks God helps him on the football field.

According to a national telephone survey conducted by Poll Position, 43 percent of people believe that “divine intervention” is responsible for his success compared to 42 percent of people surveyed who think that God has nothing to do with Tebow winning.
– from Poll Finds 43 Percent Of People Believe God Helps Tebow Win

i am certain that 43% is not reflective of the true extent of this problem in the USA as i suspect that people would not say “yes, god helps Tebow” if they were fans of other football teams or didn’t like football at all, so i expect that this *facepalm* attitude to faith to be much more prevalent – perhaps even as many as 99% of US christians have their religion so wrong that according to their rule book, there is no way they are going to this heaven of theirs..

christians don’t carry on like this in Australia anywhere near as much as the USA – idiot christians getting their religion wrong seem to be few and far between over here and the religious majority usually deal with them anyway – in my experience, a non-believer rarely needs to be the one to tell fundamentalist christian idiots to “pull their head in” over here

the problem i have with prayer is that people are praying for trivial things that they want or get… seriously? .. a football game? finding your keys? not missing the bus? .. come on people, such trivialities? … i always thought that prayer was supposed to be reserved for being thankful for very personal stuff like you and your family’s health and/or for the food in front of you – maybe it’s me that is the idiot?

maybe Tebow is praying that he is grateful his leg didn’t fall off? i could accept that, but regardless, he does this prayer bullcrap in front of thousands of people, this is blatantly showing off that you are a believer to win the favour of the masses – to add insult to injury, this Jesus guy even taught that you should *not* do exactly what this Tebow clown is doing in Mathew 6:5, the specific purpose of which was to teach that you should not show off that you are a believer as it makes others like/love/respect/trust you for doing some trivial thing

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